Netanyahu: We are at war. Israel attacked by Hamas.
Pearl harbor was a legitimate military target, plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
Jesse
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October 31, 2023, 06:24 PM
ScreamingCockatoo
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Originally posted by Skins2881: Pearl harbor was a legitimate military target, plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
Nanking...
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster.
Originally posted by Skins2881: plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
The Japanese did those very things all throughout China, Korea, Burma, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, and Indochina. An estimated 10 million civilians slaughtered, and an untold number of rapes, mutilations, tortures, and forcible relocations.
October 31, 2023, 06:37 PM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
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Originally posted by Skins2881: Pearl harbor was a legitimate military target, plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
Nanking...
My point was that if the attack was mostly on military targets and without the extracurriculars then Pearl Harbor response would be warranted, but unlikely. I was not talking about the entirety of the war, just the first strike. The depravity and heinousness of these attacks show that there is little chance of armistice or peace and that Isreal must completely root out the cancer that is hamas.
Jesse
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October 31, 2023, 06:39 PM
parabellum
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Originally posted by Skins2881: Pearl harbor was a legitimate military target, plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
You don't remember these things because you are not informed. The Japanese were horrifically brutal to the peoples they conquered.
October 31, 2023, 06:43 PM
RogueJSK
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Originally posted by Skins2881: I was not talking about the entirety of the war, just the first strike.
While Pearl Harbor was the initial Japanese strike against the US, they had been at war since their invasion of China in July 1937, and had been raping, murdering, and pillaging their way through China for over 4 years by the time Pearl Harbor rolled around.
October 31, 2023, 06:44 PM
Skins2881
I'm most certainly aware. I didn't express what I was trying to say I guess. Pearl Harbor was a military target and we responded with the might of the entire country. This was something different and combined with the history of ever escalating attacks deserves additional resolve and dedication.
Our response was not based on other atrocities.
I'm saying it's equally ridiculous to expect Isreal to agree to a ceasefire if not more so than it would have been for us to.
Jesse
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October 31, 2023, 07:19 PM
abnmacv
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Originally posted by Skins2881: Pearl harbor was a legitimate military target, plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
Nanking massacre.
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October 31, 2023, 07:28 PM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by abnmacv:
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Originally posted by Skins2881: Pearl harbor was a legitimate military target, plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
Nanking massacre.
I'm pretty sure that didn't happen in Hawaii...
Jesse
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October 31, 2023, 07:36 PM
parabellum
Good grief
Let's just move on, please. I don't even know what we're talking about here.
October 31, 2023, 08:27 PM
Pipe Smoker
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Originally posted by parabellum:
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Originally posted by Skins2881: Pearl harbor was a legitimate military target, plus I don't remember the Japanese raping anyone, killing civilians, mutilating anyone, or abducting grandmothers and children.
You don't remember these things because you are not informed. The Japanese were horrifically brutal to the peoples they conquered.
One of my college professors was badly crippled as a result of brutal maltreatment by the Japanese on the Bataan Death March. Yet he was one of the lucky ones. Many American POWs suffered grim deaths.
“Sources also report widely differing prisoner of war casualties prior to reaching Camp O'Donnell: from 5,000 to 18,000 Filipino deaths and 500 to 650 American deaths during the march.”
SYRACUSE, NEW YORK – Patrick Dai, age 21, a junior at Cornell University who is originally from Pittsford, New York, was arrested today on a federal criminal complaint charging him with posting threats to kill or injure another using interstate communications. The announcement was made by United States Attorney Carla B. Freedman; Alfred Watson, Acting Special Agent in Charge of the Albany Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI); New York State Police Acting Superintendent Dominick L. Chiumento; and Cornell University Police Chief Anthony Bellamy.
The complaint alleges that Dai posted threatening messages to the Cornell section of an online discussion site, including posts calling for the deaths of Jewish people and a post that said “gonna shoot up 104 west.” According to information provided by Cornell University Police and other public information, 104 West is a Cornell University dining hall that caters predominantly to Kosher diets and is located next to the Cornell Jewish Center, which provides residences for Cornell students. In another post, Dai allegedly threatened to “stab” and “slit the throat” of any Jewish males he sees on campus, to rape and throw off a cliff any Jewish females, and to behead any Jewish babies. In that same post, Dai threatened to “bring an assault rifle to campus and shoot all you pig jews.” The charges and the allegations in the complaint are merely accusations. The defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty.
The charge filed against Dai carries a maximum term of 5 years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and a term of supervised release of up to 3 years. A defendant’s sentence is imposed by a judge based on the particular statute the defendant is charged with violating, the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other factors.
Dai is expected to make his initial appearance tomorrow in federal court in Syracuse, New York, before a United States Magistrate Judge.
The FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), which includes the New York State Police, is investigating this case along with the Cornell University Police Department and the Ithaca Police Department. The United States Attorney’s Office for the Northern District of New York is prosecuting the case, in conjunction with the Counterterrorism Section of the Department of Justice.
October 31, 2023, 10:37 PM
P220 Smudge
Well, Patrick, all that tough talk and now you’re gonna get to learn just how hard you really are. Looks like the OG’s are gonna have fun with your ass.
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October 31, 2023, 10:38 PM
Rightwire
I don't think this surge of college students across the nation supporting Hamas and choosing not to believe the atrocities they perpetrated is an accident or coincidence.
This seems like a chapter out of the General Giap playbook in modern times.
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October 31, 2023, 11:26 PM
Schmelby
It's no longer called a ceasefire. Now it's a "Humanitarian pause". Fuck them. I hope Israel Doesn't let off the gas for ten seconds until they are satisfied.