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Netanyahu: We are at war. Israel attacked by Hamas.

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October 20, 2023, 03:04 PM
parabellum
Netanyahu: We are at war. Israel attacked by Hamas.
"Eliminated"

There's that pesky word again.

https://twitter.com/TheMossadI.../1715425453622600185


October 20, 2023, 03:09 PM
SigSentry
Mossad to IDF: "You clean the tree, we will clean the roots".
October 20, 2023, 03:17 PM
Fenris
For those who think Islamist rage is somehow our fault, I ask which major (or even minor) religious group do Islamists get along with?

Any? Surely there has got be at least one.

<Crickets>




God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump.
October 20, 2023, 03:36 PM
spunk639
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH:
I’m sure everyone has been waiting for Greta Thunberg’s thoughts on what is happening between Hamas and Israel.

https://twitter.com/GretaThunb.../1715355502337499332


My life is so much more focused and purposeful now that I've heed the advice of a twenty year old with autism.
October 20, 2023, 03:42 PM
Russ59
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
For those who think Islamist rage is somehow our fault, I ask which major (or even minor) religious group do Islamists get along with?

Any? Surely there has got be at least one.

<Crickets>


In a similar vain, if the Pro-Palestinian groups were granted their wish of wiping Israel off the map, what are the chances of that area remaining a rich, vibrant and free population?

Zero. All it would do is give those living in Gaza more breathing room, but still be oppressed by....the knuckleheads and terrorists that they continue to vote for.

Would the Palestinians suddenly improve education and economic standards, drop their hatred of Jews and Israel? Nope


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October 20, 2023, 04:03 PM
x0225095
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
"Eliminated"

There's that pesky word again.



Missed a spot shaving but at least she had the good taste to pluck her eyebrows before she went to hell.


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October 20, 2023, 04:07 PM
parabellum
Will you stop saying that, please?
October 20, 2023, 04:16 PM
Mars_Attacks
The terrorist sympathizers are gathering in mass in front of the CNN canter here in Atlanta.

SC and I were just down there for the Print Expo today and there was a massive police presence. We were unaware that this was going to go on.

We both were sporting a Spanish Inquisition each. Attended the show with them with no problem. We left around 1:45.


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October 20, 2023, 04:29 PM
RichardC
quote:
Originally posted by stoic-one:
Captagon sounds a LOT like Khat that the Somali's used, perhaps stronger.




Holy cow!

We should learn from history, and switch our sidearms from anemic .38 caliber ( OK, .36 caliber) to .45 cal for more stopping power.




"By the 18th century, Augustinian historian Antonio Mozo discovered that early Visayan and Mindanaoan warriors didn’t exclusively use opium to get high. For instance, a root crop, known in Kapampangan as “sugapa,” could provide even the meekest warrior with the reckless courage needed in war.

As reported by Mozo, “he who eats it is made beside himself, and rendered so furious that while its effect lasts he cares not for dangers, nor even hesitates to rush into the midst of pikes and swords.”

He added that “by eating it at the time of the attack, they enter the battle like furious wild beasts, without turning back even when their force is cut to pieces; on the other hand, even when one of them is pierced from side to side with a lance, he will raise himself by that very lance in order to strike at him who had pierced him.”

History of drugs in warfare, in a nutshell.
Using psychoactive substances, or being addicted to them, is nothing new in the history of war. According to Polish historian Lukasz Kamienski, in his book “Shooting Up: A History of Drugs in Warfare,” drugs have been used numerous times in history to transform humans who would have otherwise struggled to endure war into merciless killing machines.

From the Viking warriors who allegedly drank Amanita mushrooms to the German soldiers who used Pervitin to fight stress during the Poland invasion of 1939, history never runs out of stories that prove drugs have long been used–and most likely abused–in warfare."



https://filipiknow.net/early-f...illing-capabilities/



The Muslim Moros practiced a culture of jihad against U.S. troops. Their fanatical and suicidal battlefield tactics made them dangerous enemies. Against this level of commitment, the M1892 was found to be lacking in stopping power, even at close range. One example in 1905 was recounted by Col. Louis A. LaGarde:

"Antonio Caspi, a prisoner on the island of Samar, P.I. attempted escape on Oct. 26, 1905. He was shot four times at close range in a hand-to-hand encounter by a .38 Colt's revolver loaded with U.S. Army regulation ammunition," Col. LaGarde wrote. "He was finally stunned by a blow on the forehead from the butt end of a Springfield carbine."

Col. LaGarde went on to note that the shot placement on Caspi was actually quite good. Three rounds struck his chest and perforated his lungs. Of these three, one exited his body, another lodged near the back and the third lodged in subcutaneous tissue. The fourth round went through his right hand and exited his right forearm. Instances like these led to the conclusion that the .38 Long Colt simply didn't have the power to effectively stop a threat. The Army needed something stronger.


https://www.wearethemighty.com...ry-45-acp-cartridge/


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October 20, 2023, 04:50 PM
XinTX
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
For those who think Islamist rage is somehow our fault, I ask which major (or even minor) religious group do Islamists get along with?

Any? Surely there has got be at least one.

<Crickets>


This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.”- Genesis 16:12

God telling Abram about Ishmael.


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October 20, 2023, 05:03 PM
DaveL
quote:
Originally posted by konata88:
Seems like the silent muslims need to visibly pick a side now- either they support iran and hamas (and the like) or they support peaceful coexistence with israel. silence should no longer be acceptable - pick a side as one day it may be too late and irrelevant.

The queers for palestine should live in iran for a year, forcibly if required. Those that survive can then form a more educated position. i get the concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend; but sometimes that enemy is just another enemy.


I’m not an expert on Middle East affairs so this might be a dumb question, but is there a way to support the Palestinian people insofar as they want to find a way to peacefully coexist with Israel but condemn (and eradicate) Hamas? I’m hoping there’s a solution to the Hamas problem that doesn’t involve eradicating an entire culture. There were many who believed that the Germans were irredeemable when the Nazis were in power but they were pretty quick to reform once the leadership was dead or deposed - hopefully that will be the case here.
October 20, 2023, 05:25 PM
sdy


Israeli spokesman response:

Hundreds of words of nothing. This @BBC version of an excuse for their abysmal editing, lineup, reporting, questioning and fact checking regarding the #HamasHospitalSham is perhaps the most dishonest and minimalistic attempt to whitewash biased reporting ever.
October 20, 2023, 06:31 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by DaveL:

I’m not an expert on Middle East affairs so this might be a dumb question, but is there a way to support the Palestinian people insofar as they want to find a way to peacefully coexist with Israel but condemn (and eradicate) Hamas? I’m hoping there’s a solution to the Hamas problem that doesn’t involve eradicating an entire culture. There were many who believed that the Germans were irredeemable when the Nazis were in power but they were pretty quick to reform once the leadership was dead or deposed - hopefully that will be the case here.


Man, you need to face reality. A majority of Palestinians approve of the tactics carried out by Hamas. They have absolutely no wish to live in peace with the Jews or with Israel right next door to them. They celebrate when attacks are carried out. The only time they regret it is when the retaliation from Israel comes.

So no, at this point, there is no way to support the Palestinians while at the same time condemn Hamas, because they themselves won't even condemn them. They aren't ignorant of what Hamas is doing and has done, unlike many Germans who didn't know the full extent of what Hitler and the Nazis were doing. The Palestinians know very well what happened to innocent Jews on October 7th. And again, they celebrated it.

No, there is no way.


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October 20, 2023, 06:48 PM
stoic-one
Meanwhile in Gaza:
Kindergarten to 6th grade career day - Dress up as a suicide bomber.
Middle school summer camp - Combatant drills with AK47's to simulate shooting attacks in Jerusalem.
High school - What high school?

Frown


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October 20, 2023, 07:01 PM
ZSMICHAEL
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Have you seen the illustrated comics? Cartoon figures stirring hatred of Jews.
October 20, 2023, 07:03 PM
Skins2881
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by DaveL:

I’m not an expert on Middle East affairs so this might be a dumb question, but is there a way to support the Palestinian people insofar as they want to find a way to peacefully coexist with Israel but condemn (and eradicate) Hamas? I’m hoping there’s a solution to the Hamas problem that doesn’t involve eradicating an entire culture. There were many who believed that the Germans were irredeemable when the Nazis were in power but they were pretty quick to reform once the leadership was dead or deposed - hopefully that will be the case here.


Man, you need to face reality. A majority of Palestinians approve of the tactics carried out by Hamas. They have absolutely no wish to live in peace with the Jews or with Israel right next door to them. They celebrate when attacks are carried out. The only time they regret it is when the retaliation from Israel comes.

So no, at this point, there is no way to support the Palestinians while at the same time condemn Hamas, because they themselves won't even condemn them. They aren't ignorant of what Hamas is doing and has done, unlike many Germans who didn't know the full extent of what Hitler and the Nazis were doing. The Palestinians know very well what happened to innocent Jews on October 7th. And again, they celebrated it.

No, there is no way.


That's the problem, how do you deprogram two generations of people? There is no way to stop it without truly breaking Hamas (or fill in the blank's name) and breaking everyday citizen's willingness to hate their neighbors. The only way is to absolutely destroy the militant portion of the population and pray about the results. It will either fully harden the next generation and multiply their numbers; or it will make the normal everyday citizen say no more, I want peace, I don't want my sons to rape and murder our neighbors and I don't want my family or neighbors to face the retribution.

I don't know if Israel has the fortitude to do what's necessary for a chance at peace, nor do I think the international community has the stomach for it.

Isreal and the world will have to live with and continue on with either huge losses of 'civilian' lives or we can do the same tit for tat that's been going on for decades, only hugely scaled up.

Neither one seems like a great answer.



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October 20, 2023, 07:05 PM
oldbill123
The only civilized solution would be to relocate Palestinians to Iran. That is the country funding the terror. Middle East has lots of young men with no hope and taught to direct their hatred and anger at Israel.

Lots of young males with no hope or future. Sounds like our goal importing millions across the border
October 20, 2023, 07:26 PM
parabellum
This is what these Hamas-supporting assholes at universities and on city streets all through the Western world are tearing down.

It's as clear as day to me why they do these things that on the surface seem so useless and pointless; it's because they cannot bear to face the plain truth. It is literally unbearable for these people to accept the truth that they are supporting murderous savages. They tear down posters such as this one of a sweet and completely innocent 4 year old child- not so that other people won't see them, but rather, so they themselves do not have to face the savagery and hate within themselves.

And you know something, gentlemen? I take pleasure in that. Every time you see one of these hateful, soulless people furiously ripping down these posters, remember that they are desperately trying to conceal the truth about themselves from the world.

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMica.../1715380003800539237


October 20, 2023, 09:26 PM
SigSentry
I've only seen maybe 1 headline in which the apparent Pro-Israel Biden administration may be at risk of a split democratic vote in 2024 due to the pro-Hamas zombie hoards protesting in the primarily democratic cities. If they vote, who the hell do they support for President. Would they further feed their inner daemons and or demand replacing Kamala with the likes of Rashida Tlaib? I don't like what these people are thinking they are protesting about. I don't think even they know.


Latest Ironclad with Doron Keidar.


October 20, 2023, 09:31 PM
parabellum
As the events of the past two weeks have shown, anything can happen. Events can turn on a dime. We're too far out from an election that's a year away, to be able to forecast anything.

At some point in the next few months, we may find that we'll be wishing for the peace and harmony of 2023.