October 17, 2023, 08:20 PM
gearhoundsI’ve seen several vids of while buildings turned to piles of indistinguishable rubble in surgical strike after strike. If Israel thought it worth hitting as a legit military target in the first place for whatever reason, the first indication would be the same result- a mountain of bricks. It was clearly a hamas rocket, being unguided and inaccurate veered off whatever trajectory they set the rack at.
October 17, 2023, 08:33 PM
CPD SIGWhat's the saying?
Never let a crisis go to waste.
In other words "One of our rockets fucked up. But I'll be damned if I'm going to take the blame! It was them! THEY DID IT!"
(Quick, Achmed, move that rocket launcher!)
October 17, 2023, 08:38 PM
preten2bI wonder if Joe would volunteer to be exchanged for all the hostages? You know, like the priest did, I'd like to suggest it
Upside too, Hamas would be surprised when we don't want him back.
October 17, 2023, 08:41 PM
PASigI’m wondering if they are going to turn President Two Scoops back around now, things are starting to get crazy over there. This is not a good time for this idiot to try and insert himself into the middle of this mess!
Seeing reports that some of our embassies over there may be in danger of mass angry crowds forming.
October 17, 2023, 08:43 PM
David LeeThat number of 500 dead might not be true also.
October 17, 2023, 08:45 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
What good would that be? Israel saying "Yes, we killed non-combatants including children, but it was an accident." Utterly pointless. It would make no difference.
Once again, I'll point out that Israel is capable pf pinpoint targeting accuracy and they know where the hospitals are in Gaza. Hamas did this, with their fucked up rocket attack. They're a bunch of apes with rocket launchers.
And, no, I don't believe for a second that this was intentional, despite the argument for how this strike (blamed on Israel) would benefit them in the eyes of the world. I think they're just incredibly stupid and clumsy people. You guys are giving them far too much credit for- if nothing else- target accuracy.
Yup. Exactly this.
October 17, 2023, 08:49 PM
braillediverLooks like Biden is going to make it just in time. Abbas and Jordan have canceled their meetings.
quote:
Hezbollah declares 'day of rage' against Israel
"Hezbollah announces that Wednesday will be a "day of rage" following rocket which hit Gaza hospital and was blamed on Israel."
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/378699October 17, 2023, 09:12 PM
parabellumEvery day is a day of rage with these fucking gorillas. They killed their own people but will never admit it, and on top of that, they create a day of violent protest out of it. These people are nothing but murderous trash.
October 17, 2023, 09:37 PM
wcb6092This will be Biden's message from Israel. I look for him to allow many thousands of Palestinians passage to the U.S.
White House: Trump's comments are revolting and dangerous
White House criticizes Trump plan to bar immigrants who support Hamas from entering the US.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/378703The White House on Tuesday blasted former President Donald Trump after he vowed a crackdown on Hamas supporters if re-elected.
Speaking in Iowa on Monday, Trump said that if elected president again he will bar immigrants who support Hamas from entering the US and send officers to pro-Hamas protests to arrest and deport immigrants who publicly support the group.
Promising to drastically tighten US immigration laws, the former President said, "If you want to abolish the state of Israel, you're disqualified, if you support Hamas or the ideology behind Hamas, you're disqualified, and if you're a communist, Marxist, or fascist, you are disqualified."
"It is revolting and dangerous to tear people apart right now with cruel poison that undermines our basic values as Americans," White House spokesman Andrew Bates said in a statement to NBC News on Tuesday. "And no one who praises Iran-backed terrorist groups has any credibility when it comes to protecting our national security from terrorist threats."
As a candidate in 2015, Trump proposed a total "shutdown" on Muslims entering the US. As president, he enacted a ban on entry from five Muslim-majority countries. Hours after he took office, Biden signed more than a dozen executive actions reversing some key Trump policies, including one repealing Trump's restrictions on travel from several Muslim-majority countries.
"Following the horrific terrorist attacks in Israel, President Biden has been unequivocal: There is no place for hate in America — not against Jews, not against Muslims, not against anyone. On his very first day in office, President Biden was proud to rescind the hateful Muslim travel ban instituted by his predecessor, which violates core Americans principles," Bates said on Tuesday.
"After the terrorist atrocities in Israel and after heartbreaking murder of a 6-year-old Palestinian American child this week — a 6-year-old child — this is a moment when all leaders need to come together against hate; against Islamophobia, against antisemitism," he added.
Trump spokesman Steven Cheung said it was "incorrect to call it a Muslim ban" and it showed "how stupid the Biden people are. Truly moronic."
Trump came under fire last week for a series of statements against Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, including in a speech in Florida, when he accused Netanyahu of being unprepared for the Hamas attacks and called Hezbollah "very smart."
A subsequent report claimed that Trump had told pro-Israel GOP allies and donors that he would like for Netanyahu to be removed from office before Trump would potentially be back in office.
Trump later published a statement in which he clarified his support for Israel.
“There was no better friend or ally of Israel than President Donald J. Trump. Under my leadership, the United States stood in complete solidarity with Israel, and as a result, Israel was safe, America was safe, and for the first time in decades, we made historic strides for Peace in the Middle East. As an example, all of the experts said that the Abraham Accords couldn’t be done, but we got them done, and were able to set the Middle East in a new and positive direction,” Trump wrote.
“Crooked Joe Biden’s weakness and incompetence has empowered and emboldened our enemies all over the World, and now, many lives have been so needlessly lost. What a horrible failure Biden has been in sending 6 Billion Dollars to Iran, in a simple hostage swap, when Iran is the state sponsor of terrorist groups, Hamas, Hezbollah, and others. Biden’s massive loosening of sanctions allowed 80 - 100 Billion Dollars of Iranian oil sales—much of which the regime poured into financing its bloody campaigns of terror around the globe. When I was President, and exclusively because of me, Iran was BROKE, and wanting to make a deal. No wonder the World is in absolute chaos! With President Trump back in office, Israel, and everyone else, will be SAFE AGAIN!” he added.
Last Friday, Trump expressed support for Netanyahu, writing on his Truth Social platform, “#IStandWithIsrael” and “#IStandWithBibi”.
October 17, 2023, 10:25 PM
medic451quote:
Originally posted by braillediver:
Looks like Biden is going to make it just in time. Abbas and Jordan have canceled their meetings.
quote:
Hezbollah declares 'day of rage' against Israel
"Hezbollah announces that Wednesday will be a "day of rage" following rocket which hit Gaza hospital and was blamed on Israel."
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/378699
Thats just called “Wednesday” in that part of the world…
October 17, 2023, 10:36 PM
slosigquote:
Originally posted by preten2b:
I wonder if Joe would volunteer to be exchanged for all the hostages? You know, like the priest did, I'd like to suggest it
Upside too, Hamas would be surprised when we don't want him back.
Joe wouldn’t be enough. It would have to be Joe and Kamala.
October 18, 2023, 12:17 AM
corsairquote:
Originally posted by braillediver:
quote:
Hezbollah declares 'day of rage' against Israel
"Hezbollah announces that Wednesday will be a "day of rage" following rocket which hit Gaza hospital and was blamed on Israel."
Did someone at Hezbollah miss last Friday's Day of Rage announcement?
October 18, 2023, 06:08 AM
Blume9mmIt really doesn't matter who's rocket hit the hospital.... war is bad and innocent people die. Seems a lot of folks have a hard time wrapping their heads around this... maybe it's the fault of all the movies and TV shows we watch where only the bad guys get it.
In a real war LOTs of people die... Example... March 9th of 1945 we incinerated over a 100,000 Japanese citizens.... this was before we dropped the Atomic bombs... that actually killed less people.
I'm surprised that Israel has not just obliterated any area that the rockets are coming from 1/2 circle or so.
October 18, 2023, 07:24 AM
Veeperquote:
It really doesn't matter who's rocket hit the hospital.... war is bad and innocent people die
..actually yes, it does matter.
October 18, 2023, 07:31 AM
wrightdWell don't leave us hanging..
October 18, 2023, 08:00 AM
parabellumquote:
Originally posted by Blume9mm:
It really doesn't matter who's rocket hit the hospital.... war is bad and innocent people die.
What the fuck is wrong with you? You should be embarrassed to spew such simple-minded shit in public. You sound like you're ten years old.
Before you post in this forum, I want you to THINK. Do you understand me? I am most sincere when I say that you should be feel embarrassment for posting such a moronic thing in this forum.
If you cannot grasp the most basic of concepts of this conversation, stay out of it. I'm not kidding.