Netanyahu: We are at war. Israel attacked by Hamas.
Whaaat? Hamas has been lying to the world? Say it ain't so!
United Nations cuts estimates of women, children deaths in Gaza war in half
Joey Garrison USA TODAY May 13, 2024
WASHINGTON ― The United Nations reduced estimates for the number of women and children killed during Israel's war in Gaza by nearly half, inviting new scrutiny for figures that come from the militant group Hamas.
Of the 34,735 people who have died in Gaza since the war began, according to data published May 6 by the UN, more than 9,500 were women and more than 14,500 were children.
But in updated data published two days later on May 8, the UN significantly reduced the figures to 4,959 women and 7,797 children among the 34,844 people reportedly killed in Gaza.
The UN cites data from the Gaza Ministry of Health, controlled by Hamas, to produce casualty figures. The UN reports come with a disclaimer that says, "The UN has so far not been able to produce independent, comprehensive, and verified casualty figures..."
^^^ Translation: cut in half again. The UN cannot be trusted.This message has been edited. Last edited by: gearhounds,
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May 13, 2024, 04:37 PM
darthfuster
I knew from past events and factual adjustments that these protesters were working from erroneous information. Can’t trust anyone reporting so called losses of so called Palestinians. Those disseminating the information are proven liars. Their propaganda elicited the anticipated reaction designed to relieve known terrorists from peril and pressure. Anyone pro Palestine is no better than the terrorists themselves.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
May 13, 2024, 04:48 PM
hrcjon
It occurs to me as I hear these death figures, where are they putting all the bodies? GAZA is pretty dense, urban and small. It would take a huge amount of space to bury them as individuals. So are there mass graves, surely one could see them via sat. imagery. Are they being cremated? Fuel is in short supply so? Do they have such a massive capacity. Its just been bugging me about the numbers.
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May 13, 2024, 05:22 PM
mutedblade
I say who the fuck cares. These shitheels started it and if the IDF and the Israeli people have the will and stomach for it, lay waste to it all. That’s the only true path to victory and humanity has known it for quite a while…folks have just lost the taste for complete victory
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May 13, 2024, 06:02 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon: It occurs to me as I hear these death figures, where are they putting all the bodies? GAZA is pretty dense, urban and small. It would take a huge amount of space to bury them as individuals. So are there mass graves, surely one could see them via sat. imagery. Are they being cremated? Fuel is in short supply so? Do they have such a massive capacity. Its just been bugging me about the numbers.
You’re asking to scrutinize deceptions. The media will never do that to their terrorist allies. I trust Israel to do the thorough, prudent and moral thing as well as can be in war.
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
May 13, 2024, 08:37 PM
MikeinNC
quote:
Originally posted by mutedblade: I say who the fuck cares. These shitheels started it and if the IDF and the Israeli people have the will and stomach for it, lay waste to it all. That’s the only true path to victory and humanity has known it for quite a while…folks have just lost the taste for complete victory
Great minds think alike.
And good use of shitheels. That’s like a triple bonus word.
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May 14, 2024, 05:10 AM
tacfoley
quote:
Originally posted by hrcjon: It occurs to me as I hear these death figures, where are they putting all the bodies? GAZA is pretty dense, urban and small. It would take a huge amount of space to bury them as individuals. So are there mass graves, surely one could see them via sat. imagery. Are they being cremated? Fuel is in short supply so? Do they have such a massive capacity. Its just been bugging me about the numbers.
Moslems don't cremate their dead.
May 14, 2024, 09:53 AM
John Steed
Regarding the phony civilian casualties, someone said it best when they wrote "The New York Times: Stenographers for terrorists"
That applies to NPR, CBS, ABC, etc., etc.
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May 14, 2024, 12:04 PM
trapper189
Meanwhile at the University of South Florida (Link):
“SPECIAL NOTE: EMERGENCY ORDER 2024-E0-01
Per Board of Governors Emergency Order 2024-E0-01, undergraduate students who are seeking to escape a reasonable fear of antisemitic or other religious discrimination, harassment, intimidation or violence at their current institutions are eligible to transfer to the University of South Florida from an out of state, degree-granting, accredited institution within the United States.”
Go Bulls!
May 14, 2024, 12:18 PM
John Steed
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189: Meanwhile at the University of South Florida (Link):
“SPECIAL NOTE: EMERGENCY ORDER 2024-E0-01
Per Board of Governors Emergency Order 2024-E0-01, undergraduate students who are seeking to escape a reasonable fear of antisemitic or other religious discrimination, harassment, intimidation or violence at their current institutions are eligible to transfer to the University of South Florida from an out of state, degree-granting, accredited institution within the United States.”
Go Bulls!
Good on them. It made me sick to hear a young jewish woman who was a third year medical student, describe how she was blocked from attending her classes at Columbia.
Where is the outrage, the US Marshalls, the National Guard? Does civil rights only apply if your skin isn't white and/or you're a transexual?
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May 14, 2024, 02:02 PM
patw
I was watching a video of a Palestinian flag being raised in Chicago yesterday, next to a US flag at the same height and people were cheering. It is amazing at how many stupid "Americans" there are and how they choose not to see things, like when the Palestinians cheered after/during 9/11 or how Hamas is never condemned by Palestinians. It is a shame what this country has allowed to happen.
May 14, 2024, 08:26 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum: This son of a bitch is not playing with a full deck, and I mean that. There is something seriously screwy in this guy's head. His solution to any problem is to bomb some country or other. This time, though, he encourages the use of nuclear weapons.
It's simply not possible to take this whacko seriously. I'd love to see Graham with a weekly newspaper advice column. His response to everything from divorce disputes to financial advice would be: "Have you tried dropping 500 pounders on your soon to be ex?" and "Bombing your neighbor would settle that property line squabble PDQ." and "Your mother-in-law sounds like a real piece of work. I recommend a JDAM right into her kitchen." or "Forget small claims court and go straight to cluster bombs. You can thank me later."
Israel is not losing and will not lose this war. "Palestine" isn't even a county. They have no air force, no real army and no navy. They make rockets out of pipe for water lines, and they have to get that from Israel.
Iran is a bunch of fucking clowns, some of the most inept fighters in the entire world, and they have no nuclear weapons. Iran will not defeat Israel.
Nuclear weapons have not been used since 1945, and this insane asshole wants to make their use in the current age a standard option for any nuclear-armed nation, and that is plain fucking crazy.
That says it all, great reminder of grounded reality. Yea LG guys goes off the deep end on a pretty regular basis, sometimes right out of the blue, like a rabid animal, unpredictably. I don't remember the specifics, but some time ago I remember him making a very strong decision about something that made absolutely zero sense, and when asked about his reasoning, he refused to answer that line of questioning. If felt like the mafia or aliens were forcing him into supporting an insane position by some secret threat. I remember thinking, WTF.
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May 14, 2024, 08:45 PM
Cookster
wrightd, you may be thinking of ms. lindsie's reaction to the SCOTUS Roe v Wade ruling, where iirc, prior to their ruling his position was that the matter should be decided at the state level, but then after their ruling which placed the decision at the state level, Graham went berserk and declared that a Federal 15-week abortion ban was necessary and put forward a legislative proposal for that.
What a G-D fkn'g two-faced crazy POS and an irresponsible war-mongering lunatic!
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May 16, 2024, 07:42 PM
wrightd
quote:
Originally posted by mutedblade: I say who the fuck cares. These shitheels started it and if the IDF and the Israeli people have the will and stomach for it, lay waste to it all. That’s the only true path to victory and humanity has known it for quite a while…folks have just lost the taste for complete victory
Sums it up accurately.
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May 17, 2024, 01:44 PM
sjtill
quote:
Graham went berserk and declared that a Federal 15-week abortion ban was necessary and put forward a legislative proposal for that.
That proposal probably lost Republicans a number of seats in the House, maybe even in the Senate.
Wise of Trump, in my opinion, to advocate "states' rights" for this.
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May 17, 2024, 04:13 PM
sdy
Israel announced on Friday that close to 700 tunnel shafts have been found in the final Hamas stronghold of Rafah along with 50 Hamas terrorist tunnels between Gaza and Egypt.
“These tunnels are used by Hamas to supply itself with weapons and ammunition, and could potentially be used to smuggle out of Gaza hostages or Hamas senior operatives,” Gilad explained.
Mike Lee had agreed to move toward divesting from Israel and giving a pro-Palestinian group more sway over campus decisions.
California State University placed Sonoma State campus President Mike Lee on leave Wednesday after he agreed to protesters’ demands to involve them in university decision-making and pursue divestment from Israel.
Lee sent a campus-wide memo Tuesday indicating that he had made several concessions to occupants of a pro-Palestinian encampment on campus. The memo was sent “without the appropriate approvals,” CSU Chancellor Mildred García said in a statement, adding that she and the 23-campus CSU system’s board are “actively reviewing the matter.”
“For now, because of this insubordination and the consequences it has brought upon the system, President Lee has been placed on administrative leave,” García said.
The punishment marks perhaps the harshest disciplinary action against a campus chancellor or president in California over the handling of protests of the war in Gaza. It also underscores an unwillingness to divest from Israeli weapons manufacturers — as pro-Palestinian protesters across the country have increasingly demanded the last few months — among leaders of the CSU system and its sister University of California system.
California universities including UC Riverside, UC Berkeley and Sacramento State have agreed to study divestment like some East Coast universities, but none have gone as far as Lee.
Lee told the campus that he would initiate an academic boycott of Israel, in which links to study abroad programs in the country would be removed from university pamphlets, among other measures. He also agreed to work with a local chapter of the activist group Students for Justice in Palestine to form an advisory council on some decisions.
Lee further pledged to review the school’s contracts and a campus-specific investment fund called the Sonoma State Foundation for ties to Israel “to determine a course of action leading to divestment strategies that include seeking ethical alternatives.”
“In my attempt to find agreement with one group of students, I marginalized other members of our student population and community,” Lee wrote in a follow-up message to members of the campus Wednesday. “I realize the harm that this has caused, and I take full ownership of it. I deeply regret the unintended consequences of my actions.”
Lee did not immediately return a request for comment.
His decision to engage with protesters had quickly drawn backlash in the 24 hours since he announced the deal with demonstrators, which included them dismantling their encampment. California Legislative Jewish Caucus Co-Chair Scott Wiener, a Democrat, condemned Lee’s concessions to the “Boycott, Divest and Sanction” movement in scathing terms.
“Yesterday the President of Sonoma State University aligned the campus with BDS, a movement whose goal is the destruction of Israel, home to 7M Jews,” Wiener wrote on X Wednesday. “Several other UC & CSU campuses are doing this more subtly. Sonoma State simply said the quiet part out loud. The mask is off.”
Wiener and fellow Caucus Co-Chair Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel later issued a statement praising the decision to place Lee on leave, saying he had been “unfit to lead one of our great state institutions.”
Lee was first named president of the campus in Northern California’s Wine Country in the fall of 2022. He’ll be replaced in the interim by Nathan Evans, a vice chancellor in García’s administration.
“I want to acknowledge how deeply concerned I am about the impact the statement has had on the Sonoma State community, and how challenging and painful it will be for many of our students and community members to see and read,” said García, who took over as chancellor at the beginning of the academic year. “The heart and mission of the CSU is to create an inclusive and welcoming place for everyone we serve, not to marginalize one community over another.”
May 18, 2024, 05:06 AM
tacfoley
quote:
Originally posted by sdy: Israel announced on Friday that close to 700 tunnel shafts have been found in the final Hamas stronghold of Rafah along with 50 Hamas terrorist tunnels between Gaza and Egypt.
“These tunnels are used by Hamas to supply itself with weapons and ammunition, and could potentially be used to smuggle out of Gaza hostages or Hamas senior operatives,” Gilad explained.
Now we know where much of the $47 Billion 'goodbye present' from Israel was spent apart from the rockets and ammunition, that is.