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“Russian forces are buying Starlink satellite internet terminals in 'Arab countries' for use on the battlefield for a little over $2,000 each, Ukraine's military spy agency said. The Elon Musk-owned service has been vital to Kyiv's battlefield communications, but Ukrainian officials have said Russian forces are also increasingly relying on it during their nearly two-year-old invasion. The defense ministry's Main Directorate of Intelligence (GUR) released what it said was an audio intercept of two Russian soldiers discussing buying units from Arab providers for around 200,000 rubles, the equivalent of $2,200, each. 'The aggressor state Russia is purchasing communications equipment, including Starlink satellite Internet terminals, for use in the war in Arab countries,' the ministry said on Telegram. …… Until now the system has operated in Ukraine, except Crimea, as Musk wanted to stop Kyiv targeting Russian warships, and use the terminals for humanitarian instead of military purposes. …” DailyMail article: https://mol.im/a/13082843 Serious about crackers. | ||
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If you think about it. The fact that Russia needs Starlink says a lot about their lack of Command and Control. It just shows how far they are behind us in technology. It is public information about what bands Starlkink uses. Why those bands are not blocked or scrambled by Russia is very telling. | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
I don't believe a word these grifters say anymore. Sorry, not sorry. | |||
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Agree-- Ukraine lies... Musk has already released statements that Starlink to Russia is not happening. Ukraine and our politicians will say anything to push the Ukraine funding. No shame. | |||
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https://www.thedefensepost.com...ield-communications/ ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Sadly I have to totally agree with you. They are still pushing the narrative that Ukraine is only a few billion dollars away from winning this war. It seems anyone that can remain objective says Ukraine is getting smoked and it’s a waste of money to keep sending it to a losing cause. Not to mention they have already lost 400,000 of their most badass men. I’m sure as they start running out of their men we will need to send out soldiers to extend this farce and keep the laundry mat open. | |||
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| Baroque Bloke |
The US has ultimate control of Starlink. Given its military potential, I suspect that the EU, Russia, and China are going to put their own similar systems, just as the EU and Russia did for GPS. A gazillion satellites. Serious about crackers. | |||
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He said he's not selling it to them, which he probably doesn't. And these terminals don't work deep inside the USSR. But there is no way he can block it near the frontline, because the geofence is not precise enough to block one side and not interfere with the other. So it's not outside the realm of possibility that some terminals bought in the 3rd country will work on the Red side along the frontline. | |||
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The Kessler syndrome is coming. Then there will be no satellites. At least ones that still work. -MG | |||
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That resonates with me. I've always believe to always be skeptical of any information even or especially if it's from sources supposedly align with your position. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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I don't get this. A starlink basestation knows exactly where it is. And starlink clearly knows how to disable any specific unit. So I'm confused on the theory that one could take a unit into an area that they don't want to provide service? Now I get if you are in an area where service is provided that separating individual terminals by ownership and use is a real project but its in the relm of doable if needed. “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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| My other Sig is a Steyr.  |
Sounds like BS. I was on the wait list for Starlink to make service available for over three years before canceling the order. They make it sound like you could plug that crap in and it works anywhere? Um... Sure! | |||
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Not sure your point. If you are in the service area with the right kind of terminal you can actually plug that 'crap in' and it works. Now that isn't worldwide for coverage but its pretty darn well covers the developed areas of the world. EDITED to ADD: No part of the USA shows a wait list for service. just FYI “So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong, and strike at what is weak.” | |||
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We used to do similar in Iraq. We'd buy INMARSAT or similar from a local Iraqi vendor, run some cables and switches and you had internet in your room. The "Arabs" are probably buying Star links for their business and reselling them with out telling Starlink. They could have captured or purchased one that was sent to the Ukrainians early in the conflict. Or they could have had one of their Agents pose as a legitimate buyer and then smuggle one over. It's not probably not going to change the balance of power. If the Copper and Fiber going into Crimea as still intact as the speeds and latency are probably similar. I suspect once they figure out the terminal ID, Elon's boy will terminate their subscription. | |||
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Elon pushed a number of terminals into the region earlier in the conflict. They are probably trying to figure out which one to kill, they probably don't want to accidentally shut down an NGO, Media or Ukrainian terminal. Or they are collecting on it. | |||
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| Made from a different mold  |
My direct neighbor has Starlink, but I had been waitlisted for over 2 years. The local FB page is full of countless others that are waitlisted too (some going on 4 years). Just because it's not advertised on their website, doesn't mean it's not true. I believe Elon is enjoying guaranteed government money instead of having to deal with people that may or may not pay their bills. I'm supposed to be getting fiber sometime this year, so I cancelled my order. As soon as this Ukraine bullshit is done, ole Elon is gonna be scrambling to find some new customers and he'll find that most of us have moved on! ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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