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Originally posted by arcwelder:
"Journalism" died in 2016 if not before.

It started dying a good deal earlier than that.

In my mind the slow decline in journalism started somewhere around the time period of Watergate and the film Absence of Malice (early 1970's to early 1980's). That's when the goal of news organizations and journalists started changing from informing to the goals of shocking, entertaining, and proselytizing.

There was, however, a distinct bump, or dip--depending upon one's perspective, 'round about the time Obama gained the White House (2008). Sometime around there, or soon thereafter, the DNM stopped trying to maintain any pretense of doing real journalism, started going well beyond simply "lying by omission" and spin, and went to just plain regurgitating the Party Line and making stuff up.

The Dominant "News" Media, these days, is utterly worthless. Worse than worthless. It has become a danger to the Republic.

I ditched those GOPe frauds in Nov 2012. Gutfeld is the last Broadcaster on that network that is not an establishment stooge.

I hope fox keeps pulling stunts that alienate their core conservative viewership. The sooner that fox becomes a nakedly neocon network the better.

I don’t think there are enough neocon viewers left to keep fox financially solvent.

Fox apparently didn't learn anything about alienating their customer base form the Bud Lite fiasco.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by arcwelder:
"Journalism" died in 2016 if not before.

It started dying a good deal earlier than that.

A lot earlier than that, if you believe Thomas Jefferson.

1. “The most effectual engines for [pacifying a nation] are the public papers… [A despotic] government always [keeps] a kind of standing army of newswriters who, without any regard to truth or to what should be like truth, [invent] and put into the papers whatever might serve the ministers. This suffices with the mass of the people who have no means of distinguishing the false from the true paragraphs of a newspaper.”

2. “I deplore… the putrid state into which our newspapers have passed and the malignity, the vulgarity, and mendacious spirit of those who write for them… These ordures are rapidly depraving the public taste and lessening its relish for sound food.”

4. “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.”

and many more. Taken from this link:

Thomas Jefferson on newspapers.

I think someone at FNC must have read this thread. I went to dinner alone tonight, Mrs. Lee is away, sat at the bar and read Fox's iPhone app the whole time. No pop ups at all and wasn't once asked for my email to continue reading.

A workaround to the email required blockage is to append ".amp" without the quotation marks to the end of the page's URL addres. I know this works for Chrome desktop and mobile browsers.

^^^ Works for Brave, too. Thanks.

^^ Works in Mozilla Firefox too. Thanks!

It's really strange, but after I read about the fix, I tried reading a few articles and none them needed the fix. They all worked just like they should.

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Originally posted by ranger312:
Just set up an email account that you only use for junk stuff. I've had one for years and it works fine for Foxnews.com. No more email requests.

You clearly haven't been reading the member responses which mostly collectively say a great big FU Fox.

Gone are the days when you just needed an email format. Years ago I would sign up for nearly anything with stuff like Gpatton@3rdArmy.com and the like.

You should be able to view most anything behind a paywall by looking for it with your link at the archive

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Originally posted by Angus the Kid:
Almost every story now requires an email. The hell with that shit.

And one I tried recently said: opena free account to read the rest of the story. I did. then it says subscribe at such and such amount for 3 months to read the rest of the story. FU.

Cancelling Mike Lindell sucks big time for me. It's not that I like his pillows very much. But cancelling even his commercials. Fox was the only place that Mike was pitching his commercials. That's downright taking a man's livelihood away from him and that's not right at all.

Todays modern news outlets have become what slanderous newspapers of the the old days were called, "yellow press".

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
And one I tried recently said: opena free account to read the rest of the story. I did. then it says subscribe at such and such amount for 3 months to read the rest of the story. FU.

The Epoch Times.

Like mod29, I left them a while ago when it was just overly dramatic pandering both in broadcast and web articles. Almost impossible to ferret out the actual facts there as anywhere else.

I am curious about how y'all would suggest they support their business model however. I see complaints about not being able to run ad blockers, and about giving email that obviously is part of their ad model. Assuming we don't want it to be state-run ( ), how exactly are they to pay for the people and infrastructure to collect and publish news without the ability to attract advertisers to their model?

It's nice that Elon is propping up a large part of Twitter, but even that leans on ads to survive. Absent someone like para winning the lottery and deciding to redirect his selfless efforts there, it takes a shitton of money to run a news site I suspect.

^^^Putting ads in front of the consumer while reading (consuming?) their product is a whole lot different than requiring an email address so they can SEND YOU ADS in perpetuity and/or sell your email address to other advertisers, etc that will do the same!