51 year old man ko's 12 year old girl, gets arrested. I call BS
It's fortunate for that pack of animals that the victim they picked wasn't an old man.
A really old guy would've just pulled his gun and emptied a magazine or two into them. If he was a good shot he may have wiped out the entire pack.
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January 16, 2019, 10:34 AM
maximus_flavius
Too bad he didn’t beat more of their punk asses down
January 16, 2019, 10:38 AM
911Boss
I’m ok with his response, doubly so if they had been harassing wife and kids prior as reported.
I’ve never been a fan of gradual tit-for-tat escalation. Much prefer a swift and overwhelming response, especially in a pack scenario.
He immediately improved the odds by one, she is out of the fight and her cohorts are on notice that you aren’t fucking around. Seeing their friend go down like that can be frightening and demoralizing, especially if she was queen bitch of the pack.
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What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
January 16, 2019, 10:51 AM
apf383
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Originally posted by Leemur:
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Originally posted by apf383: Its all fun and games until someone looses a few teeth.
Then it’s hilarious.
Nice! Love it.
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January 16, 2019, 10:52 AM
sgalczyn
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Originally posted by Yellow Jacket: It's fortunate for that pack of animals that the victim they picked wasn't an old man.
A really old guy would've just pulled his gun and emptied a magazine or two into them. If he was a good shot he may have wiped out the entire pack.
Sounds like a good dose of OC is called for.....not enough reason to shoot but enough to hurt!
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January 16, 2019, 11:16 AM
darthfuster
NSFW 'F' word
You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
January 16, 2019, 11:25 AM
Jimineer
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Originally posted by trapper189: Video showed for me.
These teens must have thought they were in school where this behavior is tolerated without consequence. Life lessons learned the hard way. Welcome to the real world.
I've said this before, but I think everyone should be given an annual allotment of say 3 punches to the face without consequence. I think we'd have a more polite and civilized society as a result. The real jerks would get punched by multiple different people.
One of the comments on the YouTube video:
“As a black man who hates the behaviour of ghetto black kids this was SO SATISFYING to watch! lmfao.”
I wouldn’t convict the guy if I were on the jury.
January 16, 2019, 11:26 AM
sigmonkey
I'd be "that asshole" that made 11 other juror's life hell.
(if I survived the cut)
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January 16, 2019, 11:42 AM
95flhr
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Originally posted by Ronin101: to the people that cant see the video.. it shows a large white man 6'4" 250 according to the reports. push a black girl back 5-10 feet and then she immdediately runs toward him and he knocks her out on contact.
He should take a plea agreement now before they public outcry gets any worse and they amend the charges to felony status. There is a huge disparity of force here. The smart play would have been to flee the little miscreants
what I saw in the video previous to that is the kid hit him in the back.
Based on seeing that, I would not convict him, looked to me like self defense.
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January 16, 2019, 11:49 AM
PeteF
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by Ronin101: to the people that cant see the video.. it shows a large white man 6'4" 250 according to the reports. push a black girl back 5-10 feet and then she immdediately runs toward him and he knocks her out on contact.
He should take a plea agreement now before they public outcry gets any worse and they amend the charges to felony status. There is a huge disparity of force here. The smart play would have been to flee the little miscreants
If there is video of the entire encounter, I'd love to see it. But, given only what we can see here, I have no problem with what he did. Could he have slapped her and knocked her down rather than knocking her out? Yeah, but oh well.
Keep in mind that any one of those dozen or so "miscreants" could have had a knife or a gun. And, fleeing 10-12 people (regardless of size) ain't as easy as it sounds when they are in jackal mode.
Big guy and family surrounded by gutter trash. Gutter trash pushes man, man ignores it, looks to his family. Gutter trash comes for try 2, gets pushed away. Gutter trash trys for round 3 and meets mans fist.
Classic self defense. Police should be ashamed of themselves, for arresting him.
January 16, 2019, 11:54 AM
kx90
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Originally posted by PeteF:
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by Ronin101: to the people that cant see the video.. it shows a large white man 6'4" 250 according to the reports. push a black girl back 5-10 feet and then she immdediately runs toward him and he knocks her out on contact.
He should take a plea agreement now before they public outcry gets any worse and they amend the charges to felony status. There is a huge disparity of force here. The smart play would have been to flee the little miscreants
If there is video of the entire encounter, I'd love to see it. But, given only what we can see here, I have no problem with what he did. Could he have slapped her and knocked her down rather than knocking her out? Yeah, but oh well.
Keep in mind that any one of those dozen or so "miscreants" could have had a knife or a gun. And, fleeing 10-12 people (regardless of size) ain't as easy as it sounds when they are in jackal mode.
Big guy and family surrounded by gutter trash. Gutter trash pushes man, man ignores it, looks to his family. Gutter trash comes for try 2, gets pushed away. Gutter trash trys for round 3 and meets mans fist.
Classic self defense. Police should be ashamed of themselves, for arresting him.
In the slo-mo it looks to me that the girl was winding up to take a swing at him??
January 16, 2019, 11:55 AM
PeteF
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Originally posted by PeteF:
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Originally posted by Gustofer:
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Originally posted by Ronin101: to the people that cant see the video.. it shows a large white man 6'4" 250 according to the reports. push a black girl back 5-10 feet and then she immdediately runs toward him and he knocks her out on contact.
He should take a plea agreement now before they public outcry gets any worse and they amend the charges to felony status. There is a huge disparity of force here. The smart play would have been to flee the little miscreants
If there is video of the entire encounter, I'd love to see it. But, given only what we can see here, I have no problem with what he did. Could he have slapped her and knocked her down rather than knocking her out? Yeah, but oh well.
Keep in mind that any one of those dozen or so "miscreants" could have had a knife or a gun. And, fleeing 10-12 people (regardless of size) ain't as easy as it sounds when they are in jackal mode.
Big guy, woman and child surrounded by gutter trash. Gutter trash pushes man, man ignores it, looks to woman and child. Gutter trash comes for try 2, gets pushed away. Gutter trash trys for round 3 and meets mans fist.
Classic self defense. Police should be ashamed of themselves, for arresting him.
January 16, 2019, 11:56 AM
HRK
The video isn't at that link anymore it's a falling silo. the description is there but the video isn't.
One article his attorney states he has PTSD and brain injuries, it also said the mall has security measures that are under review, guess that means there will be video that either supports him or not.
January 16, 2019, 11:59 AM
Elk Hunter
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Originally posted by sgalczyn:
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Originally posted by Yellow Jacket: It's fortunate for that pack of animals that the victim they picked wasn't an old man.
A really old guy would've just pulled his gun and emptied a magazine or two into them. If he was a good shot he may have wiped out the entire pack.
Sounds like a good dose of OC is called for.....not enough reason to shoot but enough to hurt!
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Elk
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But...what I meant was that I'd like to see what led up to that. I suspect that it was a man defending his family from a pack of jackals. If that's the case, then I have ZERO problem with what he did, and I'd bet a jury wouldn't either. Or, at least I hope so.
Nice left hook by the way. Maybe she'll get some money from the tooth fairy.
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January 16, 2019, 12:02 PM
gpbst3
They sure did scatter after they realized he wasnt having it anymore.
But...what I meant was that I'd like to see what led up to that. I suspect that it was a man defending his family from a pack of jackals. If that's the case, then I have ZERO problem with what he did, and I'd bet a jury wouldn't either. Or, at least I hope so.
Nice left hook by the way. Maybe she'll get some money from the tooth fairy.
If you read the video description, it sounds like the gutter trash were toying with woman and child (not his family) The guy came along and tried to get the "yutes" to knock it off. Gutter trash came back with the good old "who are you". And thats where the hillarity ensues.
January 16, 2019, 12:11 PM
oddball
The guy was attacked first, surrounded by over a half dozen kids and teens., The one girl, who has some meat on her bones, and is not tiny little girl next to a 6 foot man, goes after him with her fists raised. He wasn't going to fuck around like most kids do in a similar situation. Remember "The Knockout Game"? Or the flash mobs of children and teens beating up white adults in a parking lot? I applaud this guy.
Middle school girls are not like middle school boys; they physically develop at an early age. At my son's middle school, the girls all looked like 14-16 yo teenagers.
Here are some videos of girls going up against adults-
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January 16, 2019, 12:21 PM
dgrdvm
Zero issues with this mans response here. Also, I would say that this was actually reflexive - he reacted to a threat with out thought. He did not instigate this mess ( based on what I see) and he did not square up to fight. I have fought a fair amount in my life, and this looks like a guy who tossed a nice cross at a charging target with satisfying results, like he was trained. Maybe could have planted the left foot better to get the hips into it more. Prob could not have stopped it if he wanted to, and it happened fast. Well done sir
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