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Originally posted by parabellum:
Do I hear "mega-casino"? Yes I do

My very first thought as well...

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Originally posted by GT-40DOC:

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Originally posted by DSgrouse:
LOL, so all those dem cities and towns now have to deal with tribal councils?

Oklahoma is as bright RED of a State as you will ever see!!

Yep. Not a single county voted blue in 2016.

flashguy

Send in Longmire to smooth things over and patch things up.

*Honesty & Integrity*

It's an interesting opinion. It sure doesn't appear to be as clear cut as that Washington Examiner article makes it out to be.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Do I hear "mega-casino"? Yes I do

With a big ol' revival tent right across the way.

So, I see a few things:

A) Tribes making a deal w. the state to walk this back, because they do not want the headache/do not want to deal with suddenly being outnumbered ~9:1 on their own reservation.

B) The mother of all title problems, to a large amount of property.

C) If they run with it, and depending on just how autonomous a reservation really is (I don't know if they are more like states, or more like Puerto Rico) - they take the chance to become a free-trade and development zone.

Joking aside, if the courts can rule that the old treaties are still in effect for judicial matters, what keeps this from being extrapolated to mean the land itself still belongs to the tribes?

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Do I hear "mega-casino"? Yes I do

That's exactly what I was thinking !

If we are making predictions, I can think of a few:

1) Indian activists will call for a reverse "Trail of Tears" - get those damn immigrants off our land.

2) The Seminoles, Cherokee, et. al. will claim that they were illegally coerced into the treaty that moved them to OK, and they want Florida back, along with big chunks of Georgia and Alabama too.

3) If predictions #2 and #3 pan out, we will see Rhodesia in our own country. Time to stock up on cotton futures?

Realistically? I suspect little will come of this. I do want to hear how the Indians will punish the rapist.

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Originally posted by architect:

Realistically? I suspect little will come of this. I do want to hear how the Indians will punish the rapist.

Hopefully it'll involve ants, rope, stakes, and a hole in the ground.

Finally, I get to apply something from one of my favorite grad school courses (Criminal Justice in Indian Country.)

Federal law-- not state law-- applies to certain crimes committed by Indians in "Indian Country." The SC merely ruled that for purposes of the General Crimes Act and Major Crimes Act, a very large piece of OK is "Indian Country."

The state might share jurisdiction under some circumstances. Or, might not, depending on whether concurrent jurisdiction has been ceded by the tribe, whether a treaty established criminal jurisdiction, etc.

No part of this ruling puts non-Indians under the control or jurisdiction of any tribe.

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Originally posted by HK Ag:
I hope congress stops spending the coveted highway funds in these separate nations now.

These important funds are always the first thing that are held back when there is an objection by liberal congresses. As I recall these funds were held hostage in the '80s to force Louisiana to raise their drinking age.

If these are truly separate nations and they can have gambling of their choice then it seems to me they can support the highways that flow through their nations.

HK Ag

Yes and if they mess with that huge Gun Show, it's on. Cowboys and Indians.

What's to stop Congress from just properly dissolving the reservation as intended in 1907? Sounds like a formality that could easily be rectified.

I wonder if I should buy a saber and learn how to shoot from horseback...(and maybe learn to ride a horse too I suppose...)

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Do I hear "mega-casino"? Yes I do

That's exactly what I was thinking !

And Heap big tobacco store!!

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Do I hear "mega-casino"? Yes I do

That's exactly what I was thinking !

The Chickasaw Tribe owns the Winstar, located just inside Oklahoma near the border with Texas, it’s the largest casino in the USA.

Some of these tribes are very wealthy, some are dirt pauper poor.

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Originally posted by cheesegrits:
It's an interesting opinion[/url]. It sure doesn't appear to be as clear cut as that Washington Examiner article makes it out to be.

I love Clarence Thomas!

THOMAS, J., dissenting I agree with THE CHIEF JUSTICE that the Court misapplies our precedents in granting petitioner relief. Ante, at 6–38 (dissenting opinion). But in doing so, the Court also overrides Oklahoma’s statutory procedural bar, upsetting a violent sex offender’s conviction without the power to do so. The State of Oklahoma deserves more respect under our Constitution’s federal system. Therefore, I respectfully dissent.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

I love Clarence Thomas!

He should be the Chief Justice.



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Originally posted by architect:
If we are making predictions, I can think of a few:

1) Indian activists will call for a reverse "Trail of Tears" - get those damn immigrants off our land.

2) The Seminoles, Cherokee, et. al. will claim that they were illegally coerced into the treaty that moved them to OK, and they want Florida back, along with big chunks of Georgia and Alabama too.

3) If predictions #2 and #3 pan out, we will see Rhodesia in our own country. Time to stock up on cotton futures?

Realistically? I suspect little will come of this. I do want to hear how the Indians will punish the rapist.

Seminoles tribe never signed a treaty (an agreement they did) which is why they are the wealthiest tribe in the US. They weren't subject to the same treaty law but we're able to benefit from their status at the same time. Look up their holdings. Well played for them.

Just a preview of more to come!