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Joe Biden insults another Iowa voter

Joe Biden has just insulted another Iowa voter.

Sound like a plan to win? Bernie Sanders is actually leading the polls in Iowa and the Iowa caucuses are just days away, yet Joe, fresh from insulting a farmer voter earlier, picked just this time to insult another voter again.

Here's what happened, according to Des Moines television station KCCI:

DES MOINES, Iowa — A video of Democratic presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden telling a Des Moines political activist to vote for someone else has received millions of views on social media.

Former Iowa legislator and Democrat Ed Fallon said his testy exchange with Biden occurred Sunday during a campaign stop at Urban Dreams in Des Moines.

He said he waited in line for a picture and wanted to confront Biden on his climate change proposals. Another member of Fallon's Bold Iowa group recorded their interaction.

"I'm going to support you if you win the nomination because we gotta get rid of (President Donald) Trump," Fallon said to Biden in the video.

Fallon said Biden became agitated when Fallon did not agree to support him in the caucuses.

The video is non-shareable, but it's a doozy -- click here to see it.

Biden not only told the man - a Tom Steyer supporter as it were - to go vote for someone else on some pipeline disagreement, he poked the guy, palmed the man's chest, and put both mitts to grip the man's jacket openings, something the man remarked would have drawn security if he himself had done that to Biden. In short, Biden got handsy even with a guy he had a problem with, in a bizarre gesture of aggression.

"I did not expect to be told to leave, to go vote for somebody else, then to be lectured about," Fallon said.

Which rather signals that Biden has a lot of problems. Here are three of them:

One, he's obviously missing the energy it takes to run a successful presidential campaign. His stamina is failing him. He's revealing his nasty temperament under pressure. The first primary hasn't even started yet and already Joe's all tired out and cranky. He also seemed to address that the same day, effectively saying that he's so old he might drop dead any time and therefore needed a youthful and vigorous running mate, bringing up Michelle Obama as a possible. Sound like he's a good one for the long haul?

Two, the character of the insult to the voter suggest he's convinced he's got voters to burn, he doesn't need this guy's vote. A normal pol, say, Bill Clinton, would look at the skeptic and knowing the cameras were on him, try to win the man over. Clinton did that all the time, he loved the idea of winning people over who didn't agree with him. It's actually what campaigning is all about, trying to convince a few disagreers. Biden's more like the cranky old guy who yells 'get off my lawn' any time there's a challenge from the young 'uns. He can't handle pressure, which is not a surprise, given that he's always been surrounded by flatterers, but now it's obvious to voters well beyond the Steyer voter. He seems to be delusionally convinced that his lead is so great he can just tell voters to go away. With Bernie Sanders taking a commanding lead in Iowa, sound like a guy who lives in reality?

Three, Biden doesn't learn from his mistakes. He's already snapped at another Iowa voter earlier, an old farmer whose weight Biden decided to make an issue of by challenging him to pushups. He later said that was something he shouldn't have done as criticism mounted ... and now he's done it again with this Steyer voter. A pattern has emerged for voters now that Joe's a mean guy. Obviously, he doesn't learn from his mistakes.

Which goes to show how unfit he is as a presidential candidate. He doesn't seem to have it to campaign on a national level. He snaps, snarls and alienates voters, well beyond the Steyer voters. How he expects to rally the Democratic Party after what he expects will be his coronation is a mystery.

Suffice to say, President Trump, who makes no such mistakes out on the campaign trail -- and who's now drawing absolutely massive crowds, as he did this week in New Jersey -- will pound this guy like a drum and better still, beat him handily.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co...r.html#ixzz6CWMlwt89



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Evidenced by impact of constant investigations and Trump ability to shrug them off, still maintain support of base, and continue to be an effective president, could it be argued that investigations are only minimally harmful to political opponents?

Trump has shattered many DC conventions and norms, one being that investigations are often or usually career ending.
 
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I think it didn’t so with Trump because he knew he didn’t do anything wrong. It likely works with swamp critters because they know that an investigation could turn something up.


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If old joe get the nomination its because people feel sorry for the crazy old fool.
All he has ever did was be corrupt and take graft.
 
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Ukrainiain 'Son Of A Bitch Who Got Fired' Files Criminal Complaint Against Biden For Abuse Of Power

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...st-biden-abuse-power

The Ukrainian prosecutor who Joe Biden bragged about getting fired, Viktor Shokin, has filed a criminal complaint in Kiev against the former Vice President for abusing his power, according to French news outlet Les Crises (confirmed by multiple sources according to PJ Media).



Shokin writes in his complaint:

During the period 2014-2016, the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine was conducting a preliminary investigation into a series of serious crimes committed by the former Minister of Ecology of Ukraine Mykola Zlotchevsky and by the managers of the company “Burisma Holding Limited “(Cyprus), the board of directors of which included, among others, Hunter Biden, son of Joseph Biden, then vice-president of the United States of America.

The investigation into the above-mentioned crimes was carried out in strict accordance with Criminal Law and was under my personal control as the Prosecutor General of Ukraine.

Owing to my firm position on the above-mentioned cases regarding their prompt and objective investigation, which should have resulted in the arrest and the indictment of the guilty parties, Joseph Biden developed a firmly hostile attitude towards me which led him to express in private conversations with senior Ukrainian officials, as well as in his public speeches, a categorical request for my immediate dismissal from the post of Attorney General of Ukraine in exchange for the sum of US $ 1 billion in as a financial guarantee from the United States for the benefit of Ukraine.

* * *

Shokin says that due to "continued pressure from the Vice President of the United States Joseph Biden to oust me from the job by blackmailing the allocation of financial assistance, I, as the man who places the State interests above my personal interests, I agreed to abandon the post of Prosecutor General of Ukraine."

In November, the State department released detailed accusations against the Bidens levied by Shokin and his successor, Yiury Lutsenko. In them, Shokin claims:

"He [Shokin] became involved in a case against Mr. Mykola Zlochevsky the former Minister of Ecology and Natural Resources of Ukraine. The case was opened as a result of Mr. Zlochevsky giving himself/company permits to drill for gas and oil in Ukraine. Mr. Zlochevsky is also the owner of Burisma Holdings."

"Mr. Shokin stated that there are documents that list five (5) criminal cases in which Mr. Zlochevesky is listed, with the main case being for issuing illegal gas exploration permits. The following complaints are in the criminal case.

Mr. Zlochevsky was laundering money
Obtained assets by corrupt acts bribery
Mr. Zlochevsky removed approximately twenty three million US dollars out of Ukraine without permission
While seated as the Minister he approved two addition entities to receive permits for gas exploration
Mr. Zlochevsky was the owner of two secret companies that were part of Burisma Holdings and gave those companies permits which made it possible for him to profit while he was the sitting Minister.

"Mr Shokin further stated that there were several Burisma board appointments were made in 2014 as follows:

Hunter Biden son of Vice President Joseph Biden
Joseph Blade former CIA employee assigned to Anti-Terrorist Unit
Alesksander Kwasnieski former President of Poland
Devon Archer roomate to the Christopher Heinz the step-son of Mr. John Kerry United States Secretary of State

"Mr. Shokin stated that these appointments were made by Mr. Slochevsky in order to protect himself."

Shokin then details how in July 2015, "US Ambassador Geoffrey R. Pyatt told him that the investigation has to be handled with white gloves, which according to Mr. Shokin, that implied do nothing. On or about September 2015 Mr. Pyatt gave a speech in Odessa where he stated that the cases were not investigated correctly and that Mr. Shokin may be corrupt."

"Mr. Shokin further stated that on February of 2016 warrants were placed on the accounts of multiple people in Ukraine. There were requests for information on Hunter Biden to which nothing was received."

"It is believed that Hunter Biden receives a salary, commission plus one million dollars."

"President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko [who Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in US loan guarantees] told Mr. Shokin not to investigate Burisma as it was not in the interest of Joe and/or Hunter Biden. Mr. Shokin was called into Mr. Poroshenko's office and told that the investigation into Burisma and the Managing Director where Hunter Biden is on the board, has caused Joe Biden to hold up one billion dollars in US aid to Ukraine.

"Mr. Shokin stated that on or around April of 2016 Mr. Petro Poroshenko called him and told him he had to be fired as the aid to the Ukraine was being withheld by Joe Biden. Mr. Biden told Mr. Poroshenko that he had evidence that Mr. Shokin was corrupt and needed to be fired. Mr. Shokin was dismissed in April of 2016 and the US aid was delivered within one and one half months."

"On a different point Mr. Shokin believes the current Ambassador Marie L. Yovanovitch denied his visa to travel to the US. Mr. Shokin stated that she is close to Mr. Biden. Mr. Shokin also stated that there were leaks by a person named Reshenko of the Ukrainian State Secret Service about the Manafort Black Book. Mr. Shokin stated that there is possible deceit in the Manafort Black Book."


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^^^^ That's some 'Bombshell' material right there.... Razz


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^^^^ That's some 'Bombshell' material right there.... Razz
That the media in this country will completely ignore.


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Damn, Joe Biden is really losing it! How long until he punches a reporter or other media figure?

From Zero Hedge:

Watch Biden Snap At 'Today' Show Anchor Over Hunter & Burisma Questions

Yeah...no shit:

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A year ago the mainstream media treated the Biden-Ukraine scandal as a crank conspiracy theory that belonged only to remote corners of the internet. But now, headed into the Iowa caucuses, the mainstream is finally and much-belatedly peppering Joe Biden with the relevant questions...

...Commentators on Twitter noted that despite decades in past campaigns and as a seasoned political office holder, Biden is not used to fielding tough or pointed questions from the press...


 
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I think it is just a matter of time before Joe says of does something he can not back away from. The only way that doesn't happen is if he drops out of race first and goes home and sits down and shuts up.
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Watch Biden Snap At 'Today' Show Anchor Over Hunter & Burisma Questions



This process of impeachment has ensured that everyone knows about Hunter's dealings with Ukraine,” the Today show co-anchor introduced.

“Do you think it was wrong for him to take that position knowing it was really because the company wanted access to you?” Guthrie asked.

“Well that's not true!” an agitated Biden replied.

“You’re saying things you don’t know what you’re talking about!”

Biden followed up with claiming “no one has found anything wrong with [Hunter’s] dealings with Ukraine, except it sets a bad image.”

Big Grin



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"Hunter's a grown man and can answer for himself"..

Sleepy Joe is a lying douche (and pedophile)!!
 
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Damn, Joe Biden is really losing it! How long until he punches a reporter or other media figure?


Ummmm … maybe … Geraldo Rivera.
That would be entertainment.


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He keeps saying "nobody's said that" or "nobody's accused us of any wrongdoing."



Horseshit, Joe. Plenty of people have. Just because you wanted to let that sleeping dog lay doesn't mean it didn't get it's tail stepped on by this impeachment fiasco, and now it's running around the room howling.

You like investigations? You're gonna love this one.


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Biden getting wiped out in Iowa.






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Joe Biden kisses granddaughter on lips during Iowa rally

Hmmmm.... Joe the optics are bad with this one.

“But granddaughters not only love their grandpops but they like them. And that’s the great thing. Thank you, baby,” he said before giving her a quick peck on the lips.



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

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^^^^ [FLASH_VIDEO]


Link to original video: https://youtu.be/VaJDaz_aKyQ [/FLASH_VIDEO]
 
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Holy crap!

THERE SHOULD BE A WARNING BEFORE CLICKING ON THAT KISS LINK

I find it not a beautiful expression of familial love but a bit of a weird gut punch. He is an odd fucker.
 
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"Hunter's a grown man and can answer for himself"..

But can't manage to stay in the military, or get a job without daddy.



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What a fucking creep. He can't help it, he loves little girls. Disgusting.


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After Iowa, five reasons for the decline and fall of 'frontrunner' Joe Biden

Lost in the shuffle of the Democrats' app fiasco in Iowa, the rubber-room swan song of House impeachment manager Adam Schiff, and the childish paper-ripping tantrum of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the candidacy of "frontrunner" Joe Biden looks headed for the dumpster.

To the extent known from the Iowa caucus ballots counted, Biden is in fourth place, winning just 15% of the caucus count, trailing Pete Buttigieg, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren, and just barely ahead of Amy Klobuchar. Unlike those first three, he gets no delegates for his efforts. He's also out of money. It's simply a disaster for Biden.

This is the guy whose entire rationale for running was that he was the guy most likely to Beat Trump.

"Biden has a big problem," said political lizard turned CNN commentator David Axelrod. That's euphem-speak for 'buh-bye Joe.'

According to the New York Times, which ran an Associated Press item:

DES MOINES, Iowa — Joe Biden's third presidential bid enters a critical stretch after a disappointing finish in the Iowa caucuses sent the former vice president on to New Hampshire with a skittish donor base, low cash reserves and the looming threat of billionaire rival Michael Bloomberg and his unlimited personal wealth.

...and...

That leaves some establishment Democrats, including some Biden supporters, questioning his contention that he'll reclaim clear front-runner status in the race against President Donald Trump once the primary fight moves beyond overwhelmingly white Iowa and New Hampshire to more racially diverse electorates. And it's a reminder of how Biden's previous presidential campaigns never advanced beyond Iowa.

Biden's whole pitch up until now has been that he's the most electable of the Democratic candidates, a man with an appeal that spanned from the white Midwestern working class "Reagan Democrats," to the black voters in the South who associated him with President Obama, to the mainstream Democratic establishment. Joe would be the one to bring in those votes together to forge a coalition to take down Trump. The RealClearPolitics poll of polls average consistently showed him in first place.

Here's the gooey coverage Biden got from the New York Times at the start of his race:

In a three-and-a-half minute video that focused on excoriating Mr. Trump, Mr. Biden presented himself as a steely leader for a country wracked by political conflict. Unlike the wide field of Democrats competing for the affections of the left, Mr. Biden avoided almost any talk of policy or ideology, signaling that he believes voters will embrace him as a figure of stability and maturity even in a partisan primary election.

In doing so, Mr. Biden, 76, is making a bet of sorts that the Democratic Party’s leftward shift in recent years has been greatly overstated, and that the moral clarity of his rhetoric and his seeming strength as a general election candidate will overpower other considerations for Democratic voters who tend to prize youth, diversity and unapologetic liberalism.

Biden's bust in Iowa might just show a change in that configuration on RealClear and it's already pretty telling that the Times chose to run an AP story as if to avoid the topic themselves.

What took him down? Likely number one was impeachment. Democrats, with a zero-chance focus on taking down Trump, shot arrow after arrow that bounced off Trump and landed onto House Biden, bringing to the voting public's attention the rarified and corrupt big dollar paydays that came to members of the Biden family as a result of Biden's vice presidency. Thomas Lifson, well before the impeachment debacle hit Trump, pointed out with pinpoint accuracy that Biden's corruption problems would come back to bite him. Biden's fawning press tried to cover for him, with all that "he did nothing wrong" blather but voters noticed.

Second reason he failed had to have been in his string of insults to voters. With the press covering for him, voters took matters into their own hands and asked Biden all about his corrupt deals. Instead of answering them with platitudes, Biden attacked them. He challenged an old fat Iowa farmer to a push-up match, engaging in fat-shaming and other insulting statements. He told another voter to "go vote for someone else." It raised questions: Did Biden want to be there? He seemed to wither like a hothouse protected flower when exposed to actual voters and it was clear he hated them. He lacked the press as a foil for his fight (as Trump did not), so ended up attacking the little guys. Big turnoff. Not a guy you'd want to have a beer with, according to the political-viability estimator. Nobody wants to vote for a mean old man who hates people.

Third, he got no Obama endorsement. Obama in fact had been reportedly telling allies that Joe couldn't cut it. After eight long years in the service of Obama, that's a pretty stinging rejection. Obama made the claim that he was waiting to see who would be the nominee, and Biden tried to cover the embarrassment up by saying he never sought the endorsement. But the non-endorsement stood out as a vote of no confidence. If Obama didn't want this guy - and at last glimpse, was tilting to Elizabeth Warren actually, why should voters?

Fourth, "Creepy Joe." As Andrea Widburg has noted, Biden's habitual handsiness at inappropriate times, to very inappropriate people, such as little girls, exposed him as a "deeply weird" man. He couldn't even stop himself.

He's the creepy uncle that smart parents refuse to let babysit their children. It doesn't mean he's ever done anything wrong; it just means there's that vibe.

Why would anyone want a guy like that as their president?

Fifth, the only argument he had left was that he was electable. He wasn't in Iowa, a place that ought to have been a breeze for him, given his political visibility and the promise he held of Getting Trump. The sad sack couldn't even beat Bernie Sanders.

Biden in fact has always been a sad sack, puffed up by the press and the swamp into being some kind of statesman when the reality was, he was a grubby little Willie Loman or Walter Mitty figure, redolent of the '40s, dreaming of grandeur.

It's pathetic stuff now because Joe's trajectory now looks downward. The polls, the press, the punditry all formed a protective coating around him, but Biden found a way to show his real self to the voters in Iowa and it comes as no surprise that they looked elsewhere. The rest of the country may do the same.

https://www.americanthinker.co...unner_joe_biden.html



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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