SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    Navy Cruiser Captain fired for abusing crew
Page 1 2 3 
Go
New
Find
Notify
Tools
Reply
  
Navy Cruiser Captain fired for abusing crew Login/Join 
Member
posted
There was another female cruiser Captain about 10 years ago who was notorious for being an absolute witch of a captain, full blown Bligh/Morton/Capt Queeg-type.

Fired Navy Captain created ‘toxic’ climate, grabbed and struck crew on duty
quote:
A Navy captain’s yelling and public “humiliation” of her officers and crew was so severe and frequent — once for the mistake of pointing out dolphins swimming nearby from the ship’s bridge — that sailors were afraid to bring bad news to her attention. That “fear culture” aboard the USS Lake Erie, a scathing Navy investigation found, could have created “a higher risk of having a safety or operational mishap” and an “unsafe command environment where sailors do not … exercise sound judgment.”

The command investigation appears to have led to the firing last year of Capt. Danielle DeFant as commanding officer of the USS Lake Erie, a Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser.

As the commander of the Lake Erie, the report found, DeFant grabbed or struck her officers while they were on duty on the ship’s bridge, alienated the ship’s senior enlisted crew known as the Chief’s Mess, overreacted to minor transgressions like pointing out the dolphins, and in a briefing to an admiral failed to mention abysmal feedback she had received from the crew.

The admiral who eventually fired DeFant wondered if she had “deliberately whitewashed” the crew’s comments.

The investigation of DeFant was first reported by KPBS in San Diego, which received the report via a Freedom of Information Act request.

DeFant was relieved of command of Lake Erie by Rear Adm. Christopher Alexander, on October 12. Alexander, the commander of Carrier Strike Group Nine, endorsed the findings of the investigation on October 5.

DeFant was the captain of the Lake Erie for almost two years. The investigation was launched, the final report says, about 14 months into her command, after three anonymous complaints of “toxic command climate and sexual discrimination.”

The report found that DeFant had created a toxic command climate on the Lake Erie, but did not find that sexual discrimination occurred under her command.

Investigators interviewed 49 crew members who served on the ship at various times under DeFant, 44 of which were officers, along with DeFant.

Investigators reported dozens of accounts of DeFant losing her temper, screaming at crew and belittling subordinates, sometimes for serious matters of safety or operations, but frequently for minor miscommunications or even trivial moments of annoyance.

Striking and Grabbing Bridge Officers
At least twice, investigators found, DeFant grabbed or hit an officer on the ship’s bridge, while they were on duty as the ship’s Conning Officer, the watch position directly responsible for the heading, speeding and steering of the ship, who is said to “have the conn.”

In November 2022, as the ship sailed near San Diego, the Conning Officer had trouble hearing a helmsman repeating back steering orders (the redacted report did not identify any crewmembers by name).

“When [the officer] did not hear the helmsman’s repeat-back, [DeFant] smacked [the officer] on her collar bone and said ‘Pay attention.'” The officer said the smack did not hurt but “freaked her out” and she momentarily considered leaving her post by turning the conn over to DeFant. Several crew on the bridge confirmed the incident to investigators.

DeFant told investigators she did not recall this incident.

Another time, DeFant was on the bridge as the ship was mooring to a buoy off San Diego, with one officer serving in the conning position and another as the Officer of the Deck, or OOD, the role that directly oversees a ship’s watch.

As the ship maneuvered, DeFant aske, “Do I have a safe bearing?”

The Conning Officer responded in the affirmative — a response which, according to several witnesses cited in the report, set off DeFant.

“In response, [DeFant] approached [the Conning Officer], grabbed him by his uniform near his collar, pulled him towards her, and whispered in his ear, ‘Was I talking to you…You’re not the [OOD] …I was talking to the OOD…don’t ever interrupt me again’ or words to that effect.”

DeFant told investigators she recalled grabbing the officer “on his arm in an effort to re-focus his attention.”

Conflict with the Chief’s Mess
DeFant also set the enlisted crew on edge early in her command, according to the Command Master Chief, the ship’s senior enlisted leader.

During the ship’s first underway period in 2022, investigators found, DeFant addressed the Chief’s Mess, the corps of the ship’s senior enlisted leaders. Good relations between a commander and the Chief’s Mess are considered vital in Navy command structure.

The meeting did not go well.

DeFant, sailors told investigators, “‘came in hot…she was screaming…she was yelling what her expectations were to the team.” Afterwards, the reports said, “the whole team was in shock.”

DeFant is a ‘mustang,’ or naval officer who began her career as an enlisted sailor. As an officer, she commanded the USS Paul Hamilton from March 2016 to December 2017 before eventually taking over the Lake Erie.

But her enlisted background did not win over the chiefs, one of whom said that if he “ever addressed his team like [DeFant] just did, he would have been investigated.”

At least one senior sailor met with the ship’s Command Master Chief in his office and asked, “What the hell are we going to do? How are we going to function this way?”

Dolphins and PowerPoint
Among minor incidents, investigators found that DeFant “began yelling” at a junior officer for pointing out dolphins while on the bridge, an incident after which the officer said he “wasn’t doing very good for the next few weeks.” At least one other officer told investigators they had been troubled by DeFant’s severe public reaction.

Another minor moment that DeFant reacted to with “inappropriate” anger came during a routine briefing involving 10 of the ship’s senior officers. When an officer failed to adjust a document on a laptop during the slideshow, DeFant took over the laptop, ordered the other officers to leave the room and berated the officer loudly enough to be heard several rooms away.

DeFant, the report said, told the officer “‘when I say I’m tired of this problem, I’m really saying I’m tired of you’ or words to that effect.”

DeFant told investigators that she reacted strongly during the briefing because she had told the sailor to make a correction four times.

.....
 
Posts: 15474 | Location: Wine Country | Registered: September 20, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
"Ahhh, but the strawberries... That where I had them!"
My experience with Bootstrap (enlisted moved into officer ranks) was pretty positive. Most of the them acted like they had some sense. And what Captain would piss off the Chiefs?


End of Earth: 2 Miles
Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles
 
Posts: 16869 | Location: Marquette MI | Registered: July 08, 2014Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Firearms Enthusiast
Picture of Mustang-PaPa
posted Hide Post
Ahhh just when you get'em to where shoes don't heart their feet they go and do this hind of crap.
 
Posts: 18358 | Location: South West of Fort Worth, Tx. | Registered: December 26, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Age Quod Agis
Picture of ArtieS
posted Hide Post
I get the sense at this point that while all of the services have their problems, the Navy is the most FUBAR at the moment.

They are relieving a staggering number of commanders for "loss of confidence", sailing ships with major maintenance issues, and have a high crew suicide rate, particularly for ships in extended maintenance.



"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."

Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II.
 
Posts: 13172 | Location: Central Florida | Registered: November 02, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of TigerDore
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
"Ahhh, but the strawberries... That where I had them!"


They laughed at me. But I proved it beyond a shadow of doubt, with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the icebox did exist!

 
Posts: 9537 | Registered: September 26, 2013Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Official Space Nerd
Picture of Hound Dog
posted Hide Post
Having suffered under 2 abusive commanders (in the USAF), I DESPISE those who abuse their authority.

And she must be a total FOOL to piss off the Chiefs.

Sounds like good riddance.



Fear God and Dread Nought
Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher
 
Posts: 22027 | Location: Hobbiton, The Shire, Middle Earth | Registered: September 27, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
The officer you are referring to is Holly Ann Graf. No kidding, H.A.G.




Speed is fine, but accuracy is final

The use of the pen is an indulgence we can afford only because better men and women grip the sword on our behalf -Ralph Peters
 
Posts: 225 | Location: Northern Virginia | Registered: July 31, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
I Am The Walrus
posted Hide Post
Interesting as I’ve been questioned about my command climate. Roll Eyes

Sometimes things aren’t what they seem but this seems bad.


_____________

 
Posts: 13417 | Registered: March 12, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Peace through
superior firepower
Picture of parabellum
posted Hide Post
Keel haul the wench.
 
Posts: 111407 | Registered: January 20, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by VMI 1991:
The officer you are referring to is Holly Ann Graf. No kidding, H.A.G.

THAT'S HER!
The Rise and Fall of a Female Captain Bligh


USS Lake Erie which has had a dubious history, one of her former captains kept a goat onboard, yes a farm animal, where the crew was responsible for feeding and cleaning up after it. Eek
 
Posts: 15474 | Location: Wine Country | Registered: September 20, 2000Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Unflappable Enginerd
Picture of stoic-one
posted Hide Post
Once you lose the Chiefs mess, you're screwed.


__________________________________

NRA Benefactor
I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident.
http://www.aufamily.com/forums/
 
Posts: 6469 | Location: Headland, AL | Registered: April 19, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
His diet consists of black
coffee, and sarcasm.
Picture of egregore
posted Hide Post
There are only so many people qualified to be any kind of military officer, let alone the commander of a billion-dollar warship. I hope we don't run out of them.
 
Posts: 29761 | Location: Johnson City, TN | Registered: April 28, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Low Speed, High Drag
Picture of navyshooter
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by stoic-one:
Once you lose the Chiefs mess, you're screwed.


Aye.




"Blessed is he who when facing his own demise, thinks only of his front sight.”

Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem

Montani Semper Liberi
 
Posts: 10396 | Location: Santa Rosa County | Registered: March 06, 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Oriental Redneck
Picture of 12131
posted Hide Post
Just assholes with tyrant mentality thinking the ship is their personal kingdom that they don't have to answer to anyone. FUCK.THEM.


Q






 
Posts: 29166 | Location: TEXAS | Registered: September 04, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Sigforum K9 handler
Picture of jljones
posted Hide Post
Well, gee I guess I didn’t have a single good NCO, Staff NCO or officer from five years in the Marines by these standards.

I have to wonder about the hurt feelings report in todays Navy.




www.opspectraining.com

"It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it works out for them"



 
Posts: 37577 | Location: Logical | Registered: September 12, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Do---or do not.
There is no try.
posted Hide Post
Not being military, I don't know the significance of the issue of pointing out dolphins. Can someone explain?
 
Posts: 4641 | Registered: January 01, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Oriental Redneck
Picture of 12131
posted Hide Post
quote:
Originally posted by jljones:
Well, gee I guess I didn’t have a single good NCO, Staff NCO or officer from five years in the Marines by these standards.

I have to wonder about the hurt feelings report in todays Navy.

I don't think this has anything to do with being tough guy with thick skin.

What's that saying? "If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole."


Q






 
Posts: 29166 | Location: TEXAS | Registered: September 04, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Three Generations
of Service
Picture of PHPaul
posted Hide Post
I never ran into an unfit CO in my time as a CPO/SCPO.

One mustang DivOff that was a horse's ass. Knew him as a PO2 (E5) and he seemed okay. Next time I saw him, he was an LT and the power went RIGHT to his head.

In Iceland, the COMMO was a failed aviator with roughly zero leadership skills. His Chief, and the rest of the Chief's Mess did our best to support him, but everybody knew he was a feather merchant.

Also in Iceland, the XO was an LT. Not sure what his background was, but definitely not a ring-knocker (Naval Academy Grad). Had the worst case of Short Man Disease I've ever witnessed. Strictly, adamantly, religiously By The Book. EVERYBODY, including, I'm pretty sure, the CO hated his guts. Don't know that he was ever wrong, but ALWAYS a horse's ass about it. Again, the Chief's Mess backed him because that was our job. More for the Skipper than for him. He was XO under two CO's during my tour, one male, one female. Both top-notch, both demonstratively appreciative of the Chief's support.




Be careful when following the masses. Sometimes the M is silent.
 
Posts: 15877 | Location: Downeast Maine | Registered: March 10, 2010Reply With QuoteReport This Post
His diet consists of black
coffee, and sarcasm.
Picture of egregore
posted Hide Post
quote:
feather merchant
?
 
Posts: 29761 | Location: Johnson City, TN | Registered: April 28, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
Member
Picture of Lunasee
posted Hide Post
She must have had huge imaginary balls!
 
Posts: 619 | Location: Hillsboro, OR | Registered: January 09, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
  Powered by Social Strata Page 1 2 3  
 

SIGforum.com    Main Page  Hop To Forum Categories  The Lounge    Navy Cruiser Captain fired for abusing crew

© SIGforum 2025