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| Ignored facts still exist |
I reported a drunk once in the Warm Springs Indian Reservation. I had the luxury of being forced to testify as to what I saw in court. Sometimes remaining as "unnamed witness" is not possible. ---------------------- Let's Go Brandon! | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
My point exactly. If it were me, I think I'd do an anonymous tip and leave it at that. | |||
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| Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
When a cop spots him driving and pulls him over, he won't need to (or want to) mention Beancooker or anyone else to make a case. His driving will be plenty for part one, his inebriated condition for the rest. He's already on probation and has two priors according to Beancooker. I feel sorry for the Yorkie. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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| SF Jake |
I’m in the “call LE and let them deal with him” group.......anything short of that will not result in a positive outcome for anyone involved ________________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither | |||
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Does he agree he shouldn’t drink and drive? Or doesn’t care? If latter, call cops, anonymously on burner phone if you have to. If former, any thoughts on voluntarily installing a breathalyzer tied to ignition? Would that work? "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^ NO. Easily defeated by having your sober buddy blow for you. Guy needs rehab but is likely to end up in prison first. | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
Your statement is not inclusive of all possibilities. Here is what happened to me: **saw a drunk driver, really bad driving, so I called it in. This was on Tribal Land. **Before the cops got there, drunk got into an accident which totaled another car, but luckily only had minor injuries. **Cop from Tribal Police took a statement from me as to what I saw of his driving, which included going over the double yellow, over the fog line, swerving, unsafe passing in a no passing zone, trailer swaying back and forth like it was not under control, etc. **I was later contacted by the prosecutor from the Indian Reservation, who again asked me what I saw. He said he had a number of charges on the guy so he might want me to testify if it goes to court. **I get a knock on the door from a local county deputy --- he had a subpoena in hand. I took time off work and had to drive back to the reservation on said date/time. So the ideal situation where you call the cops and the cop shows up, sees the drunk driving and then makes an arrest without the need for witnesses is not always reality. ---------------------- Let's Go Brandon! | |||
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We Are...MARSHALL |
I’m not a professional when it comes to these matters but I try to repair the casualties after the inevitable accident occurs. I think the police should be notified immediately. Some departments and jurisdictions have an anonymous tip line. If you know enough about this person you could send an anonymous letter to his family if you know how to reach them and explain as a distant acquaintance you’re concerned for his health and well-being and the health and well-being of the surrounding population. Hopefully they would try to assist with treatment and support. Unfortunately there is no easy perfect answer. Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a night, set a man on fire and keep him warm the rest of his life. | |||
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| Non-Miscreant |
Shocked at the meddling old maids we have here. No, I don't have a solution and the ones advanced will probably fail. Then you'll have a war zone for a neighborhood. I'd guess then you'll wish you had minded your own business. Its OK you feel good about ratting out your neighbor. But doing that has about as much chance of a good outcome as not doing it. I'd look to myself for feeling good about ratting a neighbor out. Yeah, he needs help, but none of the suggestions seem to be about that. Only meddling. Get some railroad ties and plant them upright to protect your own stuff. Then mind your own business and avoid any contact. If he leaves his car or truck running, let it run. Laugh about it, but don't trespass, just let it run. If you must meddle, tell his GF its running and let her shut it down. Maybe call the cops for that. Others here want to start a war with no good outcome. Don't be a meddling old maid. If you think you'll feel good about it afterwards, you have a problem. Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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| 186,000 miles per second. It's the law. |
Would it be meddling to call the cops if someone was walking through the neighborhood shooting off a gun in random directions? Because that is what this guy is doing when he gets behind the wheel when he is wasted. It's only a matter of time. | |||
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| I have not yet begun to procrastinate |
Beancooker, our state has some of the toughest DUI laws in the country. It costs a *minimum* of $8000 for a DUI and that’s if the judge LOVES him. (Unlikely with priors) Call the cops when you see it happen. It is your only choice. With any luck, it will hit felony territory and he can enjoy a DOC vacation. He will kill/maim an innocent, possibly one of YOUR family or himself. I like the idea of talking to local cops or county (YCSO) and giving them a heads up…but call you must when you see it. After visiting a guy I love like a brother in prison for 5 years for his agg assault from DUI, I really wish I had done more before he hurt someone but I didn’t. I still regret that *maybe* his victim would still have 2 legs today. -------- After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box. | |||
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| half-genius, half-wit |
The only drunk driver I ever encountered was dead right there in his wrecked Land Rover with the bottle rammed through his mouth by the steering wheel hub. Thankfully he was alone when he and the pavement parted company. Nevertheless, he set a new record for me - the deadest drunk I've ever seen. | |||
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I have to respectfully disagree. You are not going to "help" a chronic drunk unless you get him by the short hairs and force him to come to grips with his problem. You have to bring the bottom up to hit him, rather than wait for him to hit bottom. This guy seems way beyond any passive intervention. He is a threat to the community. An arrest will enter him, or re-enter him into the system. Some see the light after arrest and conviction, and every court I know of sends chronic DUI's to treatment. If that doesn't change him, well, lock his ass up where he is not a threat to others. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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I cannot abide the "snitches get stitches" attitude. Don't meddle-you want him to kill someone? You have to speak out. | |||
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I wish to God a concerned neighbor would have called the law before a drunken sot killed my favorite uncle. | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
Our daughter has been a cripple since she was 20 years old, due to a drunk driver. That driver was a professional "big rig" driver with 3 previous drunk driving incidents, and had never had his license suspended/revoked, was still driving those big rigs, etc when he crossed the center line and hit her head-on. He again faced no penalty other than to attend "drunk driving" school, which he did not do. And continued to drive that big rig. Daughter has had several operations over the years and suffers a lot of pain, especially when the weather is changing. Turns out that the "judge" that handled the case was also a drunk, the police knew it. The judge caused an accident on his way to his court one morning. parked his car on the sidewalk, went inside and when the police got there, he had an open bottle of booze on his desk, and had just taken a shot to calm his nerves. Knowing that he had covered the fact that he was drunk. And got away with it, AGAIN. My view of drunk driving incidents is pretty simple. Get drunk and drive, cause an accident with death involved and get prosecuted of vehicular manslaughter. With mandatory maximum sentences, none of that crap of judge discretion. Get drunk and drive, cause an accident without death, then attempted murder charges. Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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| Too old to run, too mean to quit! |
And what will calling the police accomplish? By the time they get there, if they do, he will be long gone. Not to mention how would you know he was drunk when he left? Or is he always drunk when he drives off? Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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| No, not like Bill Clinton  |
Elk, this here. He sees him stagger to his car to get more booze, he knows where he is going. Call the police | |||
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| I can't tell if I'm tired, or just lazy  |
The next time you see him get in his car and you know he is drunk, get in your car and follow him. Look for the things a cop would look for to determine if a driver is intoxicated. Things like continually crossing the center line, weaving in driving lanes, stopping to early or too late at stop signs, anything that would give the officer probable cause to stop him. Then get on your phone and call 911 and tell them you may have an intoxicated driver and describe some of the indicators you observed. If they have an officer available, they will have him check it out. _____________________________ "The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living." "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Benjamin Franklin | |||
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In my day, we'd wait up the road for him to come home - if we had enough indicators he was impaired - one is sufficient if a credible call has been received, he would be stopped and the contact would proceed from there. Bloodshot eyes, smell of booze, slurred speech etc. | |||
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