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32nd degree |
You can lead a horticulture.... but you cant make them think. He aint gonna stop 'til hes forced to (by incarceration, or something shaking his very being) and his girlfriend is enabling him big time. ___________________  "the world doesn't end til yer dead, 'til then there's more beatin's in store, stand it like a man, and give some back" Al Swearengen | |||
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A Grateful American |
Jesse, Telling a drunk (warning them) of your intention is going to be taken as a threat. And when an aggressive asshole drunk feels threatened and is on a drunk, with no ability to reason rationally, it is going to end in a shit show, and you will be on center stage. My mother, (her name is for a blessing, and she did the best she could in the era she dealt with) was married 5 times, and other than my father, who was killed a few months before I was born, all were raging alcoholics. I know drunks. I know them as I learned to survive them. When I say I nearly was killed on more than a few occasions, it is not BS drama, it is the hard truth. No doubt, most of us could hold our own, or prevail over most drunks, but guys get paid money and have greater resources to deal with them, and often with, enduring consequences to the drunk, not themselves. That is why that is the smart answer. Hope the (squirrelly)"system", finds an acorn, this time. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
I really hate nice people that drink and turn into aggressive assholes. My good HS friend has a brother like that, a Jekyll & Hyde when it comes to alcohol. Sober he’s great but get a few drinks into him and he’s looking to fight someone, every time. He got drunk and punched a guy at a Philadelphia Phillies game back in June and spent the night in jail for assault, completely ruined an otherwise nice day out. To the OP, I’d anonymously report the guy before he kills someone. | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
I dunno. I think the risk of serious retaliation is greater than you’re allowing for. At this stage of the game, a neighbor saying something is beyond unlikely to have an impact. Guys like this need to hit bottom, and of all the ugly bottoms I’ve heard of, “my neighbor told me he was going to report me for DUI” doesn’t even rank. I’m wrong plenty, but I really don’t think this is the way. Trust the Monkey and I, we’ve survived drunks. I’ve got stories I don’t want to post here, and they probably pale in comparison to his, and this isn’t a measuring contest, either. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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| A Grateful American |
Absolutely not. It's a contest with no winners. Only survivors. And if one was in it, it was worse for them, than anyone else's. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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| Slayer of Agapanthus |
Call the police. "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre. | |||
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Alea iacta est |
Okay, first, there is no way I’m going to “warn him” that I’m contacting LEO. He is already aggressive when he drinks. This will create a shitshow, and I don’t plan on being part of that, let alone orchestrating it. My bad idea of just beating the shit out of him is a better idea than this, with probably a better end result. Neither of those options will happen. Rock bottom, I think it has happened and didn’t make a difference. It would have been bottom for me, but who knows, maybe his well is a lot deeper. To give you an idea of exactly what I’m dealing with, Smudge and Monkey can probably guess… They go out off roading one day. Plastered when they leave the house. They head up Mingus Mountain and drive off the road. He stops and the truck is good and stuck. Ford F-250 with a diesel, long bed, four door. It’s a big truck. Each time I try to get up the mountain to recover the truck, he wants to get plowed first. Each time, I rescind my offer as he’s way to drunk to try a vehicle recover with. The truck is stuck at a 45° angle or better, with a good chance of roll over if not pulled off the mountain correctly. Six weeks later, him and a couple guys from work go recover the truck. All partying and having a great time, none in the condition to recover the truck. This is a pretty new truck and it’s pretty nice. What they brought down the mountain was pretty destroyed. They didn’t roll it, but it came down with no less than $20k in body damage. He borrowed recovery gear from some of us neighbors and left some of the chains on the mountain. A week later, he heads up the mountain on a quad (to find the chains), with the GF’s dog, a little Yorkie. Shows up to my house late, probably around 8 pm, bloody and crying, super drunk. I ask what happened and he said that he went up and found the chains. Stopped on the way back to have a drink and a piss on the side of the dirt road. Coyotes snatched the Yorkie and tore her to pieces right in front of him. He went after the Coyotes to get the Yorkie back and struck his arm into the den. He was bitten, a few times. These were legit bites from a decent sized dog, probably a Coyote. The Yorkie is gone, he’s sure the GF will kill him and asks me to take their guns. Next he asks me to tell the GF about her dog as he can’t. He was too drunk and nonsensical and drank more when he got home. So I wait and tell the GF, who is upset, but just happy that he is alive. The next day these two go up the mountain again to lay the dogs collar out and wish the dog farewell. As they are having their little ceremony, the Yorkie walks up to them. The dog is alive (by no less than a miracle), and they bring her home. I told him that you saw the dog get ripped to bits, and you have Coyote bite marks on your arm. This my friend, is God reaching out to you. Completely oblivious to the fact that what he witnessed (or thought he witnessed) came undone, the Yorkie lasted all night on a pretty wild mountain avoiding predators, survived the freezing temps, and managed to be reunited with these two… what was his reaction? Pour a glass of Vodka in celebration. Now maybe everyone will understand why I won’t go “warn him”. It wouldn’t be listened to, or respected. It would just add fuel to the fire. The “lol” thread | |||
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| Frangas non Flectes |
Yeah, he’s a pro. Every occasion calls for a drink. Everyone’s “bottom” looks different, and where you or I would stop, some people just plow right through. You don’t “warn” these people, you give them a wide berth and make sure the system knows what they’re doing. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven! |
Holy crap  You may not need to worry about that guy for long. He’s going to get himself killed eventually and hopefully doesn’t take any innocent bystanders along the way. | |||
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Member |
Can't you just call the police and not provide your information and just say you are a concerned citizen? If you are worried about the phone number being traced back to you can't you also buy a pay by the minute phone? Could also follow him one day after he leaves and report him while he is on the road. In war, truth is the first casualty. Aeschylus Greek tragic dramatist (525 BC - 456 BC) | |||
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| Member |
You are getting some bad advice. Call the police, let them handle it. Confronting this guy can turn horribly awry and put you and yours in his drunken cross hairs. There is no truth to “the worst that can happen”. The truth is the worst that can happen is way worse than you can imagine. People tend to coddle addicts and it never works. Stay clear of this guy period. Having people like this in your life even tangentially will event and probably sooner rather than later cause you issues. You need to completely cut him out of your life. He’s not your problem to solve but if you keep helping him out he might end up being your problem. This is the don’t answer your door, block his number, avoid him at all costs neighbor. | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
You better pray the Police don't tell the guy's lawyer about you ratting him out or all hell will break loose. | |||
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| Member |
After reading this, it's not going to matter if you call law enforcement on him or not. I'm going to say that the only thing that is going to stop him is his death or someone else's. It's shitty to say that and everyone has the right to live but I'm afraid it's not going to stop. I hit my rock bottom a while ago and it was scary but I didn't kill anyone. This man will. I'd rather be hated for who I am than loved for who I'm not. | |||
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Cynic |
I agree 100% _______________________________________________________ And no, junior not being able to hold still for 5 seconds is not a disability. | |||
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Ammoholic |
Holy shit, how is the guy still alive? Yeah forget my suggestion. Call the police every single day without warning until he's in prison. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| 186,000 miles per second. It's the law. |
Agreed. This guy is completely lost. The only thing that will stop him is jail followed by rehab, or death. And maybe more than one death. Inform the police. It's all you can do. He is completely off the deep end. | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
Best idea, JMO is to contact the DUI group or local LEO office and let them know vehicles, plate number(s) typical times, so they can get his pattern into their rotation. He doesn't care about himself enough to make a change, someone else shouldn't lose a family member because of his selfishness. | |||
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I'm Fine |
I would see if I could figure out a way to do it anonomously. If not, then I'd still take the heat and tell them he regularly does this... ------------------ SBrooks | |||
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| drop and give me 20 pushups |
Do not give it a second thought about reporting this jackwad to the proper authorities ASAP and keep reporting them until they are taken off the road. How are you going to feel when he seriously injures or kills someone ??? Especially if it comes out that you could have said something and the family of said victim/s come to you for answers as to why you kept quiet. Legally I do not think that you are required to say anything but what about the moral side. This jackwad only thinks about himself and what he wants and could care less about anyone else. ................ drill sgt. | |||
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| Member |
Beancooker. Why interact at all with this drunk asshole? You pack your own lunch sometimes and therefore you get to eat a shit sandwich. Yeah I would get law enforcement involved but I would not entertain an habitual drunk showing up at my front door wanting help to retrieve his vehicle, or save his vehicle by turning it off when he is too drunk to realize it is running when he gets home. Why enable him at all? _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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