"Just following orders".

I was at the 2a rally in Virginia at the Richmond capitol a few years ago. We were bussed there from Lynchburg in part from support by the local LGS, Safeside Tactical. Something like 25k folk were there.

Now that was a good picture of the demographic. But it didn't fit the narrative. There were moms, dads, young people, veterans, old people, fat people skinny people, black, brown and white people.

None of us wore masks and as desperate as the media wanted it, there was no crime. One infamous young man walked around with a barret.

And these idiots were not at the event. But no, we must accept that these "patriot front" NPC idiots are all that represents us.

It could never be that the average American freedom loving constitutionalist, actually looks like a pissed off mom from suburbia with a pastel colored Stanley mug and a Glock 43.

No, that is not true. The only truth is what the machine feeds us. Fit white male 19 year Olds in masks. Move along folks, nothing more to see here...

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
"Just following orders".

THIS!! This right here!!! Amen, Mars!!

In the course of human history, how would the outcome of this world have changed if one...just ONE...German Hauptmann would have said, "NEIN!! That is an IMMORAL and ILLEGAL order!!" Sure...said Hauptmann would have been sent immediately to the front or, more probable, executed on the spot to set an example, but at least he would have died with a clear conscience...

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
In the course of human history, how would the outcome of this world have changed if one...just ONE...German Hauptmann would have said, "NEIN!! That is an IMMORAL and ILLEGAL order!! "Sure...said Hauptmann would have been sent immediately to the front or, more probable, executed on the spot to set an example, but at least he would have died with a clear conscience...

There are hundreds of documented examples of German soldiers and officers who refused orders to participate in atrocities during the war. Only a very small handful of them were seriously punished by their chain of command, with just one documented execution and one documented concentration camp sentence.

"Those Who Said "No!": Germans Who Refused to Execute Civilians during World War II" by David Kitterman is the most commonly cited paper on the topic, but there are other studies.

The excellent book "Ordinary Men" by Christopher Browning, which examines a unit of middle-aged blue collar German police reservists sent to carry out mass executions in Poland, also discusses what happened to the portion of the unit that refused (as well as delving into all the sociological and psychological factors why so many of the other seemingly normal men did not).

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Thanks, Rogue. Will have to dig into that. Perhaps my attention, then, should be focused on the SS Hauptmann...

Biden declared that white supremacy/nationalism is the number one threat to the nation. It’s of course not true, but now he’s in trouble so it’s time to make it look true to frighten his base into staying on the plantation. That it is being done so clumsily transparent is likely because the Left is used to not being scrutinized. It’s the Hunger Games. It’s unaccountable omnipotent central government. The feds were never supposed to be this powerful. Generations of gradual accumulation have created this monster. Those who observed the Soviet Union in the 50s-70s saw the same false Potemkin village façades. They didn’t fool anyone then and our Soviets aren’t fooling many now.

If you look a pure murder rates, young black men 18-24 are the biggest threat to public safety. Not only to other black men, but to whites.

Blacks murder whites 10x more than whites murder blacks, when adjusted for population. And blacks commit murder 10x higher than whites in general, again when adjusted for population.

Heather MacDonald at the Manhattan Institute and their publication City Journal has been highlighting this for years. But they just call her a racist. Because math is a white supremacist tool to oppress non-whites.

I've never heard of these guys. If they're FBI it's not the first time they've done stuff like this to use the media to shape a narrative. Look up CoIntelPro.

My concern is using Twitter as an information source. Unless it's from a credited source I discount what I read and try to verify if something interesting comes up. Let's go through what has been "retweeted" in this thread.

1. Andy Ngo. Solid reputation and work record. Credentialed media member. In the link provided, he just reports this group marched. That's all. If he has reported these guys are FBI other than the link provided I'd look at it.

2. Gunther Eagleman @ Gunther Eagleman. Self-professed MAGA man.

3. Mischief. Another MAGA aficionado. Self-proclaimed.

4. Clown World_____ . Just a person.

5. Spitfire @DogRightGirl. Just a person.

6. Champagne Joshi. He presents sites that has published his work. In his bio he writes "Meme Connoisseur published." Wrongspeakpub. Publica Now. This account doesn't exist. And, he has a substack. He has been published at LastAmericanVagabond. I clicked this link in his bio. On a brief inspection, this account on Twitter is wildly anti-Semitic.

Honestly, nothing that I looked up convinced me at all. My point is you have to be very careful when pulling stuff off of Twitter.

I also have to question the validity.

Is Saturday an off day at the FBI academy?

They just come out and get filmed marching to run on Biden's re-election tv ads and then leave.

No nothing shady about that.

I think I got a close-up of those hats:

Military age fit men.....hmmm....."migrants?" Just kidding.

Not a tattoo to be seen on those exposed arms of the ones arrested. Also, zip-cuffed, but not a one of them unmasked.

Totally legit.

If it’s not feds, my next guess is paid marchers by the democrats, Soros, or the deep state. So they can scare the ignorant voters that we are evil.

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Originally posted by Ozarkwoods:
If it’s not feds, my next guess is paid marchers by the democrats, Soros, or the deep state. So they can scare the ignorant voters that we are evil.

There’s no way. There would be a mix of skinny and heavy, clean shaven and bearded and so on.

No, these guys are definitely feds or some kind of government entity. They are all fit looking and around the same age, are all clean shaven, no long hair or any sort of tattoos and piercings etc.

For fun I’d like to stand near a group of them and loudly and suddenly call AHHHTENNNNHUHHH! PARRRRADDDE REST! and see how many of them react out of habit. Bet you I’d get a bunch of them.

The ratio of neck beards and dad bods is incorrect.

Can you imagine walking into work one morning and the boss is laying out the plans for the march you’re ordered to be a part of. Every one of them probably has a mortgage, wife, and 2.3 kids to provide for. No way they’re gonna tell the boss ‘He’ll no’! What an an absolute abuse.

@goose5, I understand your point, and the LEOs will comment more - but who the heck arrests someone, without pulling the mask off?

That just seems strange as heck.

The all-fit, no tattoos... Yes, that probably screams Feds - or something else.

Any prosecution records for the arrestees? Seems like it shouldn't be too hard to see if they were tried/convicted/sentenced, etc