Here is a great, albeit long, diatribe on the cartels stealing fuel in Mexico. Mexico has really gone to $hit in the past couple of years.

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Mexico went to shit a lot longer than a couple years ago

And everyone's been stealing fuel from the pipelines down there for a lot longer than the last couple of years.

See, for example, http://www.pri.org/stories/201...ars-daily-fuel-theft

Until Mexico, and points south, solve their corruption problems and other social issues, the United States won't be able to solve the illegal immigration problem.
We can spend a fortune to beat it back some, but it will just be temporary.
That's a part of the world that should be very prosperous. Natural resources, access to the sea on both sides, the largest market for just about anything just over their northern border.

We lack the will and political control to stop it, not the ability.

Not that I think it will ever happen, but a DMZ-level border will absolutely stop 99% of it.

And it would do so overnight.

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Originally posted by 46and2:
We lack the will and political control to stop it, not the ability.

Not that I think it will ever happen, but a DMZ-level border will absolutely stop 99% of it.

And it would do so overnight.

Exactly. If it works in Korea it would damn sure work here

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Originally posted by 46and2:
We lack the will and political control to stop it, not the ability.

Not that I think it will ever happen, but a DMZ-level border will absolutely stop 99% of it.

And it would do so overnight.

The DMZ was under 60 miles wide and we could use air strikes as needed. And it didn't work.

The US-Mexico border is about 1954 miles.

I watched a tv special on this last week.
The pipe lines are shallow and criss cross in very easily distinguished areas.
They dig down and put in a tap. Takes 40 min they said.
Need to just start killing anyone carrying a rifle over there.

Mexico is one of the few countries where I've been held up and extorted at gunpoint with an automatic weapon. In that case, by a government employee.

I'm not a big fan of Mexico, on many levels.

But are the fuel thieves murdering 30,000 people per year?

Sounds like a shithole.

And it will spread to the US if not stopped...

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which have a lot more than $2.5 billion to spend and easy access to a booming firearms black market, thanks to lax regulations in the U.S. Nowadays, firefights between the cartels and the armed forces can be outright urban infantry battles, with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades and even helicopter gunships unloading on safe houses.

Anybody know where I can buy me a machine gun and some RPG's on the cheap? Perhaps a used Cobra gunship?

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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which have a lot more than $2.5 billion to spend and easy access to a booming firearms black market, thanks to lax regulations in the U.S. Nowadays, firefights between the cartels and the armed forces can be outright urban infantry battles, with machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades and even helicopter gunships unloading on safe houses.

Anybody know where I can buy me a machine gun and some RPG's on the cheap? Perhaps a used Cobra gunship?

You're too late. Holder is gone.