This occurred in the aftermath of a "Red Flag" law passed in New Jersey.


Dailywire - Police Try To Take Veteran's Guns Without A Warrant. He Didn't Let Them.

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Iraq war veteran Leonard Cottrell Jr. says that last month New Jersey police tried to confiscate his firearms without a warrant — and he did not let them take them.

Two police officers visited his home "because his 13-year-old son had made a comment at school about the Millstone Middle School's security, and the officers wanted to confiscate Cottrell's firearms as part of an investigation," NJ.com reported.

Cottrell, who legally owns a shotgun and a handgun, is a disabled U.S. Army veteran who served multiple tours during "Operation Iraqi Freedom."

Cottrell says that his wife let the officers into their home and let them search their sons' room where they did not find any weapons but then the officers tried to take his firearms, which "he has all the correct permits to own."

"No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process," Cottrell said, according to NJ.com.

The police's attempt to confiscate Cottrell's firearms comes after Democrat Governor Phil Murphy signed into law a bill that makes it easy for law enforcement to confiscate firearms without due process.

Cottrell said that his son is upset by the situation and that he did not do anything wrong and the entire situation is being misconstrued and blown up.

"He didn't do anything wrong, and he doesn't understand why it happened — he was just having a conversation with nothing as far as threats," Cottrell said. "It shouldn't have blown up the way it did. But he understands it happened, there are consequences and there's fallout from his actions."

One loss of rights leads to another and another and another until tyranny prevails and there are no more citizens. Shame on LE for complicity in the oppression of the innocent.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
One loss of rights leads to another and another and another until tyranny prevails and there are no more citizens. Shame on LE for complicity in the oppression of the innocent.

But oppressing the innocent masses is the goal of socialism.

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Originally posted by darthfuster:
One loss of rights leads to another and another and another until tyranny prevails and there are no more citizens. Shame on LE for complicity in the oppression of the innocent.

This. I would have refused to even attempt to carry out such a blatant violation of someone's rights. And I would have shamed anyone that agreed to.

Of course, these are cops from a commie state, and heavily brainwashed, so they may not feel shame over this.

Vet needs to have a chat with the wife and son about the Bill of Rights and not flapping their yap about Dad’s guns.

The article says the police "attempted to confiscate" the firearms. It doesn't sound like any violence was involved. So what exactly did the police do or say, and what did Cottrell do to counter? It sounds like it ended peaceably, thank goodness, but I would be interested to hear more what transpired.

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Originally posted by btanchors:
The article says the police "attempted to confiscate" the firearms. It doesn't sound like any violence was involved. So what exactly did the police do or say, and what did Cottrell do to counter? It sounds like it ended peaceably, thank goodness, but I would be interested to hear more what transpired.

If the subject was even broached to the vet, the cops were out of line. Way left of the line.

This ain't Jersey cops first rodeo with violating the 4th and 2nd amendments.

They had a grand old time beating old women and stealing guns in New Orleans.

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Originally posted by btanchors:
The article says the police "attempted to confiscate" the firearms. It doesn't sound like any violence was involved. So what exactly did the police do or say, and what did Cottrell do to counter? It sounds like it ended peaceably, thank goodness, but I would be interested to hear more what transpired.

^^^^^Yes, this.

I call bullshit.

If the cops had "attempted" to confiscate, then the guns (a shotgun and a pistol, according to the God-awfully written article) would've been confiscated, over dead bodies if necessary.

"May we please take your guns, just to make sure your son doesn't cause trouble with them?" is NOT confiscation, it's a polite request.

Good grief! This isn't journalism. This is just bullshit.

Did anyone actually believe that this law wasn't going to be abused?

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Vet needs to have a chat with the wife and son about the Bill of Rights and not flapping their yap about Dad’s guns.

I don't think anyone needed to flap their yap. He has to have a Firearms Owner ID card to own the guns and a permit to purchase the pistol.

They already knew he had guns.

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Originally posted by SapperSteel:

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Originally posted by btanchors:
The article says the police "attempted to confiscate" the firearms. It doesn't sound like any violence was involved. So what exactly did the police do or say, and what did Cottrell do to counter? It sounds like it ended peaceably, thank goodness, but I would be interested to hear more what transpired.

^^^^^Yes, this.

I call bullshit.

If the cops had "attempted" to confiscate, then the guns (a shotgun and a pistol, according to the God-awfully written article) would've been confiscated, over dead bodies if necessary.

"May we please take your guns, just to make sure your son doesn't cause trouble with them?" is NOT confiscation, it's a polite request.

Good grief! This isn't journalism. This is just bullshit.

A polite request? Jesus Christ, the police or any government entity has no business asking such a thing. My word.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by SapperSteel:

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Originally posted by btanchors:
The article says the police "attempted to confiscate" the firearms. It doesn't sound like any violence was involved. So what exactly did the police do or say, and what did Cottrell do to counter? It sounds like it ended peaceably, thank goodness, but I would be interested to hear more what transpired.

^^^^^Yes, this.

I call bullshit.

If the cops had "attempted" to confiscate, then the guns (a shotgun and a pistol, according to the God-awfully written article) would've been confiscated, over dead bodies if necessary.

"May we please take your guns, just to make sure your son doesn't cause trouble with them?" is NOT confiscation, it's a polite request.

Good grief! This isn't journalism. This is just bullshit.

A polite requeat? Jesus Christ, the police or any government entity has no business asking such a thing. My word.

Attempt can be polite or with violence. Attempt is 1.make an effort to achieve or complete (something, typically a difficult task or action).

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Originally posted by Scurvy:

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Vet needs to have a chat with the wife and son about the Bill of Rights and not flapping their yap about Dad’s guns.

I don't think anyone needed to flap their yap. He has to have a Firearms Owner ID card to own the guns and a permit to purchase the pistol.

They already knew he had guns.

I interpreted (perhaps incorrectly) the story to say that the 13 year old son’s comments about school security made reference to his dad’s guns. It wouldn’t surprise me much if he did mention them.

The OP's link had a link to this article with a few more details:

https://www.nj.com/monmouth/in...om_army_veteran.html

Vet says troopers asked to take his guns without a warrant. He didn't let them

Updated Jul 13; Posted Jul 12

By Alex Napoliello anapoliello@njadvancemedia.com,
NJ Advance Media for NJ.com

Leonard Cottrell Jr. fought on the front lines in the Iraq War. Now, he feels he's fighting the frontlines at home in New Jersey for the right to bear arms.

Cottrell, 40, said he was working at Wawa on June 14 when he got a call from his wife around 9:30 p.m. that two police officers from the New Jersey State Police's Hamilton station were at the doorstep of his Millstone home.

The troopers, who patrol this sprawling Monmouth County township, were there, he said, because his 13-year-old son had made a comment at school about the Millstone Middle School's security, and the officers wanted to confiscate Cottrell's firearms as part of an investigation.

Cottrell, a disabled U.S. Army veteran who served three tours during "Operation Iraqi Freedom," owns a shotgun and a pistol. He has all the correct permits to own the firearms, he said, and predominately uses the shotgun to hunt.

He said his wife allowed the officers to enter the home, and with her permission, they searched his son's room -- but they did not find any weapons, he said. The officers, he said, didn't have a warrant but still wanted to take his guns. Cottrell wouldn't let them.

"No one from the state was going to take my firearms without due process," he said Thursday.

He said the attempted seizure resulted because of a new law Gov. Phil Murphy signed into law that makes it easier for police to confiscate guns when someone in the state poses a threat to themselves or others. The law is part of a broader statewide effort to make New Jersey's gun laws even tougher amid the national outcry for more gun control in the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida.

The U.S. Secret Service said Thursday that schools around the country should establish teams to evaluate potential threats and encourage students to report troubling behavior.

"Snitching is informing on someone for personal gain," the Secret Service said. But students should come forward "when they are worried about a friend who is struggling or when they are trying to keep someone from getting hurt."

Cottrell said the officers "danced around the issue" when he confronted them about the new law.

A New Jersey State Police spokesman declined to answer questions about whether this incident had anything to do with the new gun laws.

In an email, Sgt. First Class Jeff Flynn said, "Troopers responded to Mr. Cottrell's residence in reference to the report of a possible school threat. Based on their investigation, it was determined that Mr. Cottrell's weapons did not need to be seized."

Cottrell said he was able to work out a deal with the officers that he would remove the guns from his house and keep them outside until the investigation concluded.

His son was not allowed to return to school and was barred from attending graduation, he said.

Millstone school officials did not return a request for comment.

"He's upset," Cottrell said of his son. "He didn't do anything wrong, and he doesn't understand why it happened - he was just having a conversation with nothing as far as threats. It shouldn't have blown up the way it did. But he understands it happened, there are consequences and there's fallout from his actions."

Alex Napoliello may be reached at anapoliello@njadvancemedia.com.

So much for the Left's bs "no one is trying to take away your guns..." line.

The Nazi's Of New Jermany!

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His son was not allowed to return to school and was barred from attending graduation, he said.

That hurts. Given, it’s middle school but a big deal for most kids.

This raises a number of questions. Most schools end in June. It’s now the middle of July. When did all this kerffule start? Then how does a vague “comment on school security” result in a police home visit? I’d expect a school resource officer would take the kid to the office, call homemade have a parent come in. That is unless the goal was to flex their new muscles and seize some guns.

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Originally posted by Phantom229:
So much for the Left's bs "no one is trying to take away your guns..." line.

That is an EXCELLENT point!! I can use the above for "we're not coming after your guns" and the case in Ft. Hood with "gun control works".

JSMH...it's like shooting fish in a barrel most of the time with these Lib-tards.