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semi-reformed sailor |
So Mrs. Mike wants a bigger home with an office and a formal dining room. Okie dokie. Back in November we had a builder start, planning to close at end of this June We put ours on the market April 30, get a request to walk thru at 1300. That evening our realtor calls with an offer… Full price. So less than a day-woot They want the oven And us to pay closing And they want closing for July 02 (that works fine with our closing on the new house we’re having built) My sellers agent says it’s the norm for this market…mmm hmmmm So I call around and it seems like it’s a buyers market and they are all asking for closing costs to be paid by the seller. So we agree to that and sign a contract. Back to the showing-it’s an agent walking thru with the client on FaceTime on her phone. Yesterday the buys requested another walk thru. As I figured it’s the wife (and mom and maybe MIL) physically walk thru. So we clean up, grab Luna the wonder mutt, and split for the hour they are scheduled. When we get back they are still inside-I pull up the camera and they are just yapping about one of theirs husband…. We sit tight because we don’t wanna spoil the deal (they have 10 days to back out ??) then when they hit 1 hour they walk outside and yap in the front yard for another 30 minutes. Mind you the people who live there are elsewhere , but don’t let that one hour appointment having come and gone hinder you from imposing..rude. So we sit down the street until the realtor looks at her watch and suddenly they all get into cars and leave. Shouldn’t the realtor have set an alarm, or is that just me? Monday there’s an inspector coming to nit pick the nine year old home. (Hopefully there won’t be too many items on his list) Turns out the buyers had a deal on the house next door, but their appraisal fell thru. Ours is bigger and has better things like granite counters, yada yada…neighbor wanted $165/sq ft, ours comes in at $154/sq ft….same price of 350k. Seems the neighbor was inflexible about the price and they or the bank cancelled the contract. So my question to you my imaginary friends, is this….how many other showing appointments should I grant to the buyers? I think the husbands gonna wanna walk thru too-but maybe he won’t I dunno (he’s a doctor) (they are from 5 hours away) “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | ||
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| If you see me running try to keep up  |
If you have no other buyers, I would continue to allow them to see it. There is a limit, but i think it depends on how many potential buyers and whether they seem to be truly interested. Being a doctor I would assume they have the means to buy if they like it. | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
Well they signed a contract, so I won’t be getting other people visiting. So I’m inclined to allow one more visit for the husband to see the inside. But I’m not cool with them parading the entire family thru before they own it. “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | |||
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We just went through this and close the end of the week. Why isn't the buyer & their agent going thru your agent to schedule appointments? We received texts from our agent requesting appointments and we could accept or decline them. Speak with your agent - that's what they get paid for. We had no visits that were not vetted thru our agent. Only those with pre-approved financing were allowed appointments. The exception to that rule were the two open house days. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
“You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | |||
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Don't Panic |
If I understand correctly, you have a deal at your price and a timeframe you can make work, in what you are told is a buyers' market where you are. Time to celebrate, and accomodate. In other words, you want this deal to happen. They, as buyers, are using their period of flexibility to gather as much information as they can before they lose the option to cancel - that's reasonable and pretty standard. RE: inconvenience(s) during the process (and there are often several) - during those, a focus on the new house this deal is making happen will help your blood pressure. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
That was my experience as well when I was selling my last house in 2020. Had 8-10 showings total, and I'd say about half of them stayed past their appointment yapping either inside or outside. Often because they didn't even show up until their scheduled appointment was almost over. Had a few show up early too, including one couple who showed up like 3 hours before their appointment (1:00 pm instead of 4:00 pm), knocking on the door without their agent and saying they were here for their showing, and then act cranky when I asked them to wait. They then came back at about 3:30 and sat in their car in the middle of my driveway, and I had to ask them to move so that I could pull out of my garage to leave. Plenty of inconsiderate/oblivious buyers out there. And while the realtor should be mindful of things like these and take steps to prevent it, there are tons of inexperienced or just crappy realtors out there, as nearly anyone can try their hand at selling real estate.
I agree. It's not worth torpedoing this good deal just because they ask for a fourth walkthrough and you drew a red line at three, or something similar. You want this deal to happen. | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
Thanks Rogue & Joel. I do want this to go thru. But I was very turned off by seeing one of them open drawers to dressers and end tables-all personal furniture that is not being sold. Doing that to cabinets and drawers in the kitchen is one thing because those are part of the house. I’m bugged bc I can’t tell my agent bc it would look like I was spying on them. And I know the woman was probably just one of those nosey Nellie’s that crawl the earth. And I get that I really can’t stop that. (I would never open people’s personal stuff during a showing-but that’s me I guess) “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | |||
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| Fighting the good fight |
Me either, but I experienced the same during my last sale. Some people just suck. But their money spends, and it's not worth getting worked up about, or especially harming the deal over it. | |||
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| Green grass and high tides  |
maybe they need to try the shitter  Just relax and congrats on the sale. "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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| No More Mr. Nice Guy |
I would grant the husband a walk-through if he asks. Since they have an inspection scheduled, they could piggy-back onto that time slot for yet another walk-through. Don't give them a reason to back out thinking that you're being difficult and thus they lose trust. For sure do not grant anything beyond what you've contractually agreed to time wise. Also, do not sign any paperwork last minute just before their time expires. While this one does not smell like what happened to us, beware that the longer they have to back out, the more you are disadvantaged. The date/time in your contract is final unless they want to put up a lot of non-refundable cash. (We had a great buyer who seemed legitimately to love the house. A couple hours before they were locked in, they asked us to sign an IRS form 8824 which is for when a rental property is sold and a replacement is purchased. Our home would be their second home, and most homes in that area are rented seasonally, so it didn't set off alarms. But all they wanted was the latest possible date on that form which gave them more time to sit on the proceeds from selling their previous 2nd home. Long story short, they coldly played us, which cost us a lot of money in the end.) | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
^^^yeahhh nah. WRT changing the wanted things, they already signed a contract that says they only want the oven. And I’m of the opinion that “No, I already paid your closing costs.” So go kick rocks. I heard the mom say something when they were outside, “we’ll just ask for it anyway it’s not silly”. They already gave us a list and signed a contract, and now they want to change it. Is going to be the answer to my agent. If that happens. “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | |||
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| Fighting the good fight |
Depends on what they're asking. Contract modifications after the initial contract are a fairly common thing. (Especially once the inspection and appraisal are in.) Just both sides have to agree to whatever is being modified. If it's just something simple, then again... It's not worth torpedoing the deal over it. If you're too stubborn over things that don't matter, it can cost you the deal. Don't let yourself be taken advantage of, but keep in mind your goal is to sell the house. And you may not get any better offer than this if you do dig in your heels over something that doesn't matter in the long run and it causes them to decide to back out. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
As long as they schedule in advance grant them as many as they want to make the sale happen. One option is to ask your realtor to request that their realtor play time police so future appointments don't take double the requested time. Earlier in my career, my employer used to move me frequently and every time I've been shocked at people's behavior. One thing I've found everywhere - most realtors are phone addicts and barely pay any attention to what their clients are doing. Most of the bad behavior you'll encounter can be tied back to them abusing the trust of having the key to your house and the alarm code, but then not paying attention to their clients. I'll share the nitpickiest thing I've encountered selling a home. Every home I purchase I swap out the cheap fixed shower head and install one with a handheld shower head (premium one in MBR and good one in other showers/tubs). I've always left them for the buyer and purchased new ones at my new place. I was driving from Houston to Alaska and when I check into the hotel in the Canadian Rockies I open my e-mail to find a proposed contract amendment for over $2k price reduction. Their inspector took the shower head and sprayed inches away along every seam in the glass shower (i.e. not intended use). It was a glass shower next to a garden tub, and the glass on that side was sitting on top of the the granite surround for the garden tub. 3 drops of water went through the silicone caulk onto the granite surround, and they're claiming there could be hidden damage. Bullshit, the only damage will be a water spot on the granite and an $8 tube of clear silicone caulk is the solution . However, my dumb ass realtor told their realtor that I'm driving to Alaska so they saw an opportunity to lower the price and my realtor just wants her commission so she's advising me not to fight it and risk the deal falling through. As a results, I've made two changes when selling a home: Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Optimistic Cynic |
If you have a desk drawer, etc. with a lock on it, make sure it is locked when they try to peek. You will get immense pleasure seeing their frustration with not being able to know your business. Alternatively, leave a fake contingent offer for significantly more than they are offering exposed in the drawer, that might get them moving a little faster. | |||
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Ain't that the truth. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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Mike, I sold Real Estate for 21 years, and one of the things I learned was having your house for sale is a huge pain in the ass. But it is needed if you wish to move on. Deal with it as best you can and smile all the way to the bank. Also, you are planning on your new house being done when the contractor said it would be done? I wish you the best of luck with that, but I sure wouldn't count on it. I wish you the best, Rod "Do not approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction." John Deacon, Author I asked myself if I was crazy, and we all said no. | |||
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| semi-reformed sailor |
^^ they are past installing the floor tiles, and finished electrical inside (switches, fans, lights) Friday. Septic is in and waiting for inspection-was supposed to be Friday but it was raining The builder will be on time-this is our second home by them and they were early in the past-I think they give customers the last possible date so they won’t over promise. “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “ in my opinion, anything that we can do to trigger a potential aneurysm in a leftist is a good thing and worth doing” nhtagmember 2025 | |||
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It will be the most frustrating time of your life but if you want to make it happen/house to be sold, you have to be patient and you should be telling your realtor what is going on. They need to be held responsible for their part and if they are deploying, they need someone else to see to whatever issues arise, if they want their commission. Their realtor needs to make sure they are not snooping around our house, which is something your realtor should be telling them. Just because the house is for sale does not give them the right to snoop. I just went through this with both my mother's and mother in law's house the past couple months. Fortunately for them, both houses were completely cleared of everything-furniture, housewares, etc., except the appliances. They both invested some money into their homes- new appliances, carpet-(I know not a big seller but does make a cheaper difference with upgrading/making the home nicer), some blinds and textured epoxy coatings in the garage and porch. Granted you didn't need that but in my area there are a bunch of homes for sale, so we wanted to make sure their homes stood out among the rest. Both of their homes sold within a couple days with one buyer paying cash and was close to asking price. After looking around on Zillow, for example, it is amazing to me at how filthy and off-putting some of the homes people are selling. They want top dollar and wonder why the homes are sitting.  | |||
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I had multiple offers on the last home I sold. One couple told my Realtor that they wanted the security camera's turned off before they would come into the house. Realtor told them to pound sand. That was in a Sellers market. However, you and your Realtor should attempt to control as much of the narrative as possible. | |||
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