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Democrat PA Governor Orders Craft Brewers To Pay 6% Sales Tax On Every Beer Sold
December 17, 2018, 12:45 PM
PASigDemocrat PA Governor Orders Craft Brewers To Pay 6% Sales Tax On Every Beer Sold
These FRIGGEN' IDIOTS in the Democrat party that just want to tax, tax, tax everything. I just don't understand this mentality!
We in Pennsylvania have a BOOMING craft beer scene with brewpubs and tasting rooms sprouting up all over the state, but now Governor Wolf, a Democrat who naturally never saw a tax he didn't like has decided that craft brewers who sell beer where they make it will pay a 6% on every dollar sales tax to the state.
OF COURSE this will just be passed on to us, Joe Consumer.
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Craft beer will come a higher price with upcoming Pennsylvania tax
PhillyVoice
Novermber 29, 2018
Though there's no shortage of craft breweries in and around Philadelphia, the state recently issued a tax bulletin that will mean a higher price attached to Pennsylvania-made brews.
Though sales tax on beer manufacturers has been part of the state's tax code for decades, a recent bulletin released by the Pennsylvania Department of Revenue highlights that a sales tax must also be collected when a beer manufacturer sells the product to a person without the purpose of redistributing it. In other words, breweries and tasting rooms should be collecting and remitting a sales tax.
The tax – the enactment of which was recently postponed and will begin July 1, 2019, instead of Jan. 1 – will be levied by the Pennsylvania Department of Revenue and put a new tax on malt and brewed beverage manufacturers selling out of their own establishments.
This will specifically target the holders of a "G" license, which is designated to breweries. Those license holders are subject to a 6 percent tax on every retail dollar sold once the tax takes effect. That would be 42 cents added to a $7 craft beer, for example.
The tax will be felt mostly by breweries and taprooms, but it doesn't apply to other bars or restaurants that also serve craft beer. This means brews made and sold at places such as Evil Genius or Tired Hands would be subject to the tax, but that same beer sold at Johnny Brenda's or Standard Tap would not have it.
According to the York Daily Record, craft and independent breweries contributed $6.3 billion toward the Pennsylvania economy in 2017. PA's craft breweries also produced more beer in 2017 than any other state.
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December 17, 2018, 12:49 PM
shovelheadquote:
The tax will be felt mostly by breweries and taprooms, but it doesn't apply to other bars or restaurants that also serve craft beer.
Guess we know what organizations have better lobbyists or PAC's
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December 17, 2018, 12:53 PM
roberthEconomics by Democrats
1. Be ignorant if you can
2. If you can't be ignorant be destructive
December 17, 2018, 01:16 PM
bigdealquote:
This means brews made and sold at places such as Evil Genius or Tired Hands would be subject to the tax, but that same beer sold at Johnny Brenda's or Standard Tap would not have it.
Ok....I thought I understood what was going on up to this point, but that sentence makes no sense. Why would the same product be taxed at one establishment but not the other?
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December 17, 2018, 01:23 PM
PASigquote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
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This means brews made and sold at places such as Evil Genius or Tired Hands would be subject to the tax, but that same beer sold at Johnny Brenda's or Standard Tap would not have it.
Ok....I thought I understood what was going on up to this point, but that sentence makes no sense. Why would the same product be taxed at one establishment but not the other?
Evil Genius is the brewer. They also sell beer on on the premises like virtually all PA craft brewers now do with a "tasting room" or a bar there. Some have food, some just sell the beer.
Johnny Brenda's is a bar who buys beer from Evil Genius but they do not make their own beer, they are just a bar.
December 17, 2018, 01:28 PM
hjs157quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
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This means brews made and sold at places such as Evil Genius or Tired Hands would be subject to the tax, but that same beer sold at Johnny Brenda's or Standard Tap would not have it.
Ok....I thought I understood what was going on up to this point, but that sentence makes no sense. Why would the same product be taxed at one establishment but not the other?
It's government. It isn't required to make sense.
December 17, 2018, 01:36 PM
konata88Taxes are how democrats, who how no other sellable skills, get rich. And this is their war bank for the revolt that conservatives will eventually bring to them. Hard to believe we've tolerated as much as we have so far.
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GWbikerquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
These FRIGGEN' IDIOTS in the Democrat party that just want to tax, tax, tax everything. I just don't understand this mentality!
We in Pennsylvania have a BOOMING craft beer scene with brewpubs and tasting rooms sprouting up all over the state, but now Governor Wolf, a Democrat who naturally never saw a tax he didn't like has decided that craft brewers who sell beer where they make it will pay a 6% on every dollar sales tax to the state.
OF COURSE this will just be passed on to us, Joe Consumer.
quote:
Craft beer will come a higher price with upcoming Pennsylvania tax
PhillyVoice
Novermber 29, 2018
Though there's no shortage of craft breweries in and around Philadelphia, the state recently issued a tax bulletin that will mean a higher price attached to Pennsylvania-made brews.
Though sales tax on beer manufacturers has been part of the state's tax code for decades, a recent bulletin released by the Pennsylvania Department of Revenue highlights that a sales tax must also be collected when a beer manufacturer sells the product to a person without the purpose of redistributing it. In other words, breweries and tasting rooms should be collecting and remitting a sales tax.
The tax – the enactment of which was recently postponed and will begin July 1, 2019, instead of Jan. 1 – will be levied by the Pennsylvania Department of Revenue and put a new tax on malt and brewed beverage manufacturers selling out of their own establishments.
This will specifically target the holders of a "G" license, which is designated to breweries. Those license holders are subject to a 6 percent tax on every retail dollar sold once the tax takes effect. That would be 42 cents added to a $7 craft beer, for example.
The tax will be felt mostly by breweries and taprooms, but it doesn't apply to other bars or restaurants that also serve craft beer. This means brews made and sold at places such as Evil Genius or Tired Hands would be subject to the tax, but that same beer sold at Johnny Brenda's or Standard Tap would not have it.
According to the York Daily Record, craft and independent breweries contributed $6.3 billion toward the Pennsylvania economy in 2017. PA's craft breweries also produced more beer in 2017 than any other state.
Link
I hear your gasoline tax will be higher next year, too. Highest in the nation, I believe.
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December 17, 2018, 01:44 PM
bertoquote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
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This means brews made and sold at places such as Evil Genius or Tired Hands would be subject to the tax, but that same beer sold at Johnny Brenda's or Standard Tap would not have it.
Ok....I thought I understood what was going on up to this point, but that sentence makes no sense. Why would the same product be taxed at one establishment but not the other?
Because the bar/restaurant lobbyists are better than the taproom lobbyists. An extra $.42 on a $7 beer at every restaurant and bar in the state might piss off enough people to matter but the same tax charged only at taprooms just pisses off the beer nerds and they'll willingly pay.
December 17, 2018, 01:46 PM
gpbst3This is a little misleading. There is a 6% sales tax in PA. Somehow breweries did not have to charge this tax because they made the beer onsite.
If you bought 6 pack or case from a gas station the tax is already reflected in the sales price. The gas station paid the sales tax when they bought the beer from the wholesaler and just pass it on to the consumer in the purchase price.
There is/ was an unfair tax advantage by going direct to the brewery.
December 17, 2018, 01:48 PM
fpuhanquote:
Originally posted by roberth:
Economics by Democrats
1. Be ignorant if you can
2. If you can't be ignorant be destructive
Democrat philosophy:
1) If you can't ban it, tax it.
2) If you can't tax it, ban it.
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NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member December 17, 2018, 01:51 PM
RAMIUSHa! Johnny Brenda’s.
I hope PA doesn’t do what NJ did to brewers...
December 17, 2018, 02:06 PM
HRKSo explain why should brewery's get to charge consumers for their product and avoid paying sales tax, and the article is misleading you are paying a sales tax on beer purchases at bars, nothing sold to consumers is sales tax free....
December 17, 2018, 02:12 PM
AirmanJeffI've noticed a concerted effort over the last few years to attack craft brewers whenever possible. The big beer companies must have some very busy lobbyists.
December 17, 2018, 02:24 PM
nhtagmemberdemocrats - scourge of the earth
worthless people, all of them
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December 17, 2018, 03:26 PM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
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Originally posted by bigdeal:
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This means brews made and sold at places such as Evil Genius or Tired Hands would be subject to the tax, but that same beer sold at Johnny Brenda's or Standard Tap would not have it.
Ok....I thought I understood what was going on up to this point, but that sentence makes no sense. Why would the same product be taxed at one establishment but not the other?
Evil Genius is the brewer. They also sell beer on on the premises like virtually all PA craft brewers now do with a "tasting room" or a bar there. Some have food, some just sell the beer.
Johnny Brenda's is a bar who buys beer from Evil Genius but they do not make their own beer, they are just a bar.
There's two transaction "streams" for lack of a better term.
1. Evil Genius sells to Johnny Brenda's sells to consumer.
2. Evil Genius sells to consumer.
The article makes it sound like there's no tax collected in stream 1, which I highly doubt. If tax is collected in stream 1, then collecting tax in stream 2 is entirely fair and proper. Ignoring out of state sales, where else does being an end user, buying directly from a manufacturer exempt one from sales tax?
Or they should rebel. It didn't work in 1794, but maybe it will work today.
December 17, 2018, 03:33 PM
2BobTannerYou guys do have a history to fall back on if need be.
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December 17, 2018, 05:49 PM
cne32507I made cabinets. When I sold them to an end consumer, I had to charge sales tax. When I sold them to a design firm, they used a sales tax "pass thru" exemption certificate and I didn't charge them sales tax. But the design firm charged sales tax to their customer. That's the way it works. Looks like PA is closing a loophole that was probably pointed out by "BIG BEER" when they gave the gov a "contribution".
December 17, 2018, 05:50 PM
Il Cattivoquote:
Originally posted by AirmanJeff:
I've noticed a concerted effort over the last few years to attack craft brewers whenever possible. The big beer companies must have some very busy lobbyists.
They've also been steadily losing customers at bars, restaurants, liquor stores, etc. There have been several stories in the media over the past few years about big breweries trying to stem the tide by diversifying into everything from soft drinks to pot. OTOH, the market for distilled spirits (whiskey, et al.) seems to be slowly growing.
December 17, 2018, 06:46 PM
kr350psdquote:
I hear your gasoline tax will be higher next year, too. Highest in the nation, I believe.
And it was brought courtesy of a Republican governor.