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Para's right. I remember hearing about some engineering graduates flipping burgers after I graduated from college. But that didn't stop me, and it didn't stop anyone I knew or hung out with in college. Back then we were all completely self motivated, most of us began our work lives during childhood. For those of us who couldn't land "college worthy" jobs after graduation, we took what we could get, and worked out asses off. I'm still working my ass off. It was our upbringing and culture. We didn't know or experience apathy. Same story in high school. The coolest of us was the one that was working the hardest, esp. if someone got into a good situation and worked it to the max. It was a point of pride, and we sort of ranked ourselves from a job/career type perspective, and was a bona fide bragging rights sort of thing. It was an American thing, and I still feel the same. If we didn't think we "had a chance of succeeding", the best of us made it happen anyway. Lot's of business owners start out like that, and some of them are the best America has to offer. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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That is true, for those that worked. The rest of them will probably say exactly that. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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The self-motivating part, I totally understand. I am Gen X and can relate to the Boomers because, personally, I am closer to them in years. I worry about the Millennials because they are told the future and it's harder to fight statistics. So it's easier for them to get discouraged. I wish there was an easier way to get to their heads. | |||
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Funny, I was going to start a thread yesterday after I got home from a field trip. Yesterday I was on a field trip, and there was a lot of odd feelings. Yesterday I had a lot of flashbacks, nostalgia, thoughts. I'm 53 years old, I have worked most of my life. As a kid I mowed lawns, painted fences and when I got older, worked on a horse farm mucking stalls, painting barns and throwing hay. In high school I worked at a tire store changing tires and fixing flats, balancing tires. I worked at a car wash also. I left the tire shop my Junior year, and got on with the metro parks, I still worked for the car wash so in high school I had two jobs, plus I went to school and did homework. After high school, I had two jobs, worked 40 to 80 hours a week. I changed jobs and fields a few times. Some jobs sucked others were great, but most you were just a number, and no matter how hard you worked for them, no matter how many hours, they shit on you every chance that they got. Not all, but most. The funny thing was, most of the jobs that didn't pay well I was treated the best. My father died when I was 16 years old, and by 18 I was paying for myself for everything, and helping my mother. I have lost jobs and been financially wiped out three times. During those times big daddy government was less then helpful, and I had to fight for unemployment and other things. I have my whole life worked hard, 50 to 80 hours a week, have done the best job and given my all. Plus side hassles like holster making, dog leashes, and Calligraphy wedding invitations and awards. Yet I have gotten nowhere. I see people that slack in their jobs, fuck everything up and advance and receive raises, get tax returns and go on vacation every year, sometimes two or three times, all the while just coasting through life. I haven't had a vacation in 22 years. I have been working 5 to 7 days a week most of my life, yet I'm getting nowhere. I have been feeling depressed, disappointed, disheartened, dismayed and melancholy. With the extra financial pressures and clueless leadership, it's not helping my mental health. So, sometimes I feel down about the future of our country. I feel sad for the kids I see every day. Sometimes I feel like I have lost all hope. Then, I have a few days, a few days that the little things give me hope. Thursday, I pull up to the driveway of a little kindergator she gets on the bus and proudly hands me a handmade card. Thanking me for being her bus driver. Friday, I had a 1st grader give me a hug, telling me how much he loves my bus and that "your the world's best bus driver". Saturday, I had a middle school cross country field trip. I'm the driver for both the middle school and high school. Both was going, I took the middle school. One of the boys while loading came up to me and asked if I remembered him. I remembered his face, but didn't know what route (I'm a open route driver so I'm always moving around) he told me that I drove his route after his driver left in elementary school 3 years ago and that I completed the school year. He said that I was the best driver he had ever had. Then we get to the cross country event and was unloading, and a high school girl runs up to the bus, and gives me a hug and tells me that she was happy to see me. I have been her cross country driver in middle school, and she was disappointed that I wasn't driving her in high school. I told her that I'm also the high school driver, but they asked for the middle school first. After the the meet, we stopped for food. I had several of the kids tell me that I was the best bus driver ever. So I guess that this is a long way of saying that YES things are fucked up. That yes, they aren't as it used to be. That yes people in general are assholes. Also there is hope. I have seen a lot of kids that see through the bullshit, and gaslighting they have been fed. Also, even when you feel like you aren't making a difference, when you are starting to give up hope, you may be touching other people's lives and making a difference for them in ways that you just don't see. I don't know. I feel like that no matter how hard that I work, I just can't get anywhere. I have lost hope in retirement and living a comfortable golden years. Yet, I see that there is some hope. That some of the younger generation see through the bullshit and gaslighting and maybe, if we can keep the teachers from fucking them up. This County will have a chance. I feel sorry for today's kids. As they aren't allowed to be kids anymore. They have so much shit piled upon them. I miss the Era of my childhood. But doesn't all old people? Do I have the answers? Hell no! I just say, do your best, keep on doing good. ARman | |||
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Society is running the same way it has for decades. However, too many people have decided to let themselves be turned skeptical and miserable. The constant barrage of cynical, 24/7 commentary has created a weary population. Many are influenced and often lose hope because of it. Others are angry 24/7 and are not able to be healthy. I guess if there is a difference, the unhealthy obsession with the anti-woke and TDS is the difference. | |||
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I’d offer that that doesn’t mean that society is running in the correct direction at all. Just because it’s been around … doesn’t mean it’s good… Clearly. Being circumspect is far different than being a blind optimist or pessimist. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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ARman -- You're taking good care of your "customers," the kids, and they are letting you know that they appreciate it. That counts for a lot! הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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Saluki |
I’ve felt it too. Expectations have lowered for everything and everyone. People meet expectations. ----------The weather is here I wish you were beautiful---------- | |||
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I have been traveling through through the Midwest as fas west as Colorado. I stick to small towns and avoid the expressway as much as possible. Things seem pretty normal in rural areas. In populous areas aside from maybe seeing more junky cars, things also seem pretty normal again. Everyone is out filling the roads, stores and restaurants. I think everyone, including the younger folks now, is tired of the “news” because they know what’s going on, they don’t like, and they know it won’t change soon. Also slightly related is that over the last three years of vacations while traveling thousands of miles in many states I have seen virtually no signs supporting the Democrats causes or candidates but I see new and old Trump signs every day. “That’s what.” - She | |||
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We will hope then that that will be enough to overcome the large democratic big cities and other swaths of woke blue voting blocks. As far as I can tell, lots of non-conservative people in my company aren't all of a sudden supporting conservative values, but they're no longer openly slamming Trump with the traditional cool-aid BS. So yea I hope what you saw will make enough difference the next couple election cycles. I just wish more Republicans would start kicking ass and taking names, and state the obvious things that they will immediately and without reservation cut off at the knees, and go back to regular common sense and some balls in trade, defense, and foreign policy. I heard a conservative talking head say that it wasn't that hard: "That's stupid, we're gonna stop X, Y, and Z, and replace it with A, B, and C effective immediately". He say's it's that simple to win anything and everything by a land slide. He said it was a "guaranteed" winning playbook across the board, quite literally. He said it was so simple and easy to win like that for any Republican, anywhere, that it would be like child's play. If he's right I hope some new blood will take a lesson from Trump and do the exact same thing; take names and kick ass, and replace x y and z with a b and c. Simple right ? Seems right to me. Lover of the US Constitution Wile E. Coyote School of DIY Disaster | |||
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My old boss used to say "Yes, people are constantly living down to my expectations." | |||
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thanks for sharing that ARman. Stick with it. People like you give me hope. --------------------------- My hovercraft is full of eels. | |||
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It was their plumbing. They had cautionary signs on the busy Imperial highways like ours: "Slow Children At Play". ____________________ | |||
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The Ice Cream Man |
Roman plumbing never stopped flowing. TMK, lead pipes only become an issue when water sits in them/depending on the cleaning cycles. At the farm, growing up, I was told to always let the water run until it was cold, before drinking. Not sure how long that was a thing, or even if the well/house had lead pipes. | |||
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Cross Children Walk (Happy Children Ride) הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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“Lately it occurs to me What a long strange trip it's been.” The Grateful Dead, “Truckin’” | |||
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My experiences have been somewhat similar to ARman. Lots of difficulties, ups and downs. However, as bad as it has been sometimes, having sciatica for 7 years was much worse the being poor economically. Everyday I appreciate what I have, and keep plugging along. I try not to let circumstances degrade my values, and try to be the best person I can each day. It would be better to be poor and have my values and integrity intact, than to be a liar, thief, manipulator, and be rich. -c1steve | |||
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