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Who is John Galt?




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Half the country is under perpetual attack. Our dominant media and the establishment are determined to destroy nationalism/Trumpism. We've been subjected to relentless agitation and propaganda for years now. The other half of society is on edge because they actually believe the earth is burning up and we're missing our opportunity to avert disaster. Plus, the psychology of the great Covid hysteria can never be undone. It was a terrible mistake to react to that pathogen in the same manner as the Communist Chinese...we ceded any real global leadership or exceptionalism...we hid in our basements and hoped daddy government could figure it out.
 
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Read up on sociopathy and cluster B disorders. It may clear up a few things. The forced changes in parenting style has caused the making of sociopaths and being raised by a screen instead of a parent does little more than make narcissists.
 
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Millennials - the first generation to do worst than their parents... and that was before Covid19 hit. Now....they have less of a chance of succeeding. Apathy has set in for them. Can you blame them???
You bet I can.



The opportunity to succeed is still out there . Apathy has set in because they have been brainwashed by the media , public schools and Universities .
 
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I'm not defending the apathetic people in today's work force, they are plentiful and pitiful. It seems to me that this not answering the phone is more to do with the structure management has put into place. Long tedious phone trees, automated conversations, under staffed customer assistant departments. I just can't imagine a phone sitting on someone's desk ringing off the hook and everyone including supervisors just ignore it for hours on end. Maybe they mute it and just continue to dick around with their phones or finish their bear claw.



Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves.

-D.H. Lawrence
 
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Who is John Galt?


My Brother!


G1 Rev… “I don’t know I don’t care.“ Lol Wink





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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I hate it when people say stupid shit like social security ain’t cutting it. Well no shit. It was never going to cut it. You actually have to plan for the future. Nobody will do it for you. So you have choices. Plan for the future or don’t. Fuck the excuses. Work forever or live like a hobo if you don’t plan.

There is a wave of tiktok, instagram, Facebook nonsense spewing this young people message. “I can always make more money but I’ll never be 25 again walking the streets of Prague “. That is exactly how you end up 40 years later saying social security ain’t cutting it.

Yes the apathy is real. Not only is it apathy it is a sense of whatever I want to do if it benefits me is ok. Don’t really care if it isn’t kind or civil. Me me me.
 
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So as the father of a 29-year-old and a 26-year-old respectively, I have a somewhat unique perspective here.

I’ll preface by saying I certainly don’t have the answers however, I know my two young men have expressed that they feel completely screwed by the boomers and the XGEN generations.

They point out that the institutions that hold society together were destroyed before they came of age. The school systems (we utilized private as much as possible), churches, government are so far lost they’re looking for answers on how to navigate successfully.

Our government is nothing but a collection of corrupt octogenarians at this point. They despise that shit.

They were both threatened with their jobs and still suffer the consequences of the vaccine policies of the CDC/OSHA.

One was living in New York City as his emancipation; had to move back because of the overt violence.

And it’s just not clear to me having lived 60 years (and those around me) on just how to help these guys get back. I grew up in the 70s and understand inflation, lived through the 80s with crazy interest rates. When I was growing up it was just schoolyard fistfights. Now, kids deal with full auto ARs/AKs and 40 round mags.

They know the world they’re born into as much as they can at their age.

The best advice I can give them is that we are all born in our own time, and have to deal with the world as it is for ourselves.

But it’s not as easy as a broad brush swipe at millennials being lazy. I wish it was that simple.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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But it’s not as easy as a broad brush swipe at millennials being lazy. I wish it was that simple.


Indeed.

Jordan Peterson seemed to have a pretty good read on the mind-fucking these generations have had by the media/social media onslaught designed to make them feel as though no matter what, they're fucked.





 
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I think some people figured under COVID they can give 50% and not get in trouble. And they kept going that way. I see it quiet regularly. Sometimes you can shrug it off. But many times it is hard because it impacts work or things that need to get done. And it isn't just mellenials/Gen-Z. I see Xers and boomers also taking the lazy way.


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One more thing…

Something no one ever talks about is the massive amount of drugs that millennials and GenZ are on. All the amphetamines, all the SSRIs…

Most don’t get the proper up bringing environmentally (huge divorce rates), so they get dopeD to comply; and they believe it is for their own benefit.

Overlay the importation of all the crazy chemicals from China to the Mexican cartels to kill Americans.

Just let that sink in for a bit.

One of my kids is actively dating and he cannot find a girl that hasn’t had the vaccine, some mind altering psychotropic drug, divorced parents and several who had their parents tell them they wish they were never born. The world is a strange place these days.

Healthcare and Schools now means the mutilation of genitalia on young kids.

Father, forgive us.





"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty."
~Robert A. Heinlein
 
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I’ve seen it. I think it is a symptom of a culture in decline. There are too many distractions, too many destructive influences, too many safety nets, too many elite string pullers and too many policy obstacles and consequences in our culture. Those things create weak people with corrupt perspectives. These people make choices through that filter. I have theories as to why this happened and how to remedy it. Those are for a separate thread another day.



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A generation of unmotivated, thoughtless, resistance less, slugs are easier to control than say a WWII motivated generation, or a generation who think, work and have goals and ideals. Doesn’t fit in the Democratic play book, motivation, self sufficient, independent thought. Plan is control, conform, receive allotted benefits, do as your told. Thankfully not all of us conform.
 
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Humans are the only species on earth which promote the weak at the expense of the strong. This phenomenon, reduced to its next illogical level resulted in a condition where penalty for failure no longer exists.
 
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living it

I worked for a company that I helped start and I saw the successes and failures and worked my ass off 6 days a week for 19 years. I had my hands in every single technical hire and I treated them as family - not just as their boss and mentor.

We worked hard as a company to provide them with car allowances, hone allowances, office allowances. We had the best BCBS medical plan we could get for a company of 75 people. We paid 80% of the medical premiums and absorbed 100% of every increase. We had a 401k and we paid a match 50% on their first 50% of contributions. So just about everyone contributed. We also paid bonuses and profit sharing.

Our happy company was sold back in May of 2021 and frankly its been a fucking disaster. They have a 3rd rate health care plan, they have a 401k plan but zero matching. No bonuses, no profit sharing. Salary cuts and they're fucked with everyone's retirement - not today but 15 and 20 years in the future for some people.

Hands down, they are the single worst company I've ever had the misfortune of working for. Not a day goes by that I don't want to quit. I hate my job, and most of the engineers that I speak with are so totally fed up that they want to leave. We've had 4 senior engineers leave.

So I do my job. Just my job. I don't take the initiative to do anything extra. If something isn't being done by someone else, I no longer send them a polite reminder to do it. That's not my job. I am treating the new company exactly the way they're treating me. With utter contempt and loathing.

For the first time in my 35 year professional career I'm in it for the paycheck. Thats all. Nothing more. Certainly not in it for the professional advancement. Just the money and enough to pay off my house. When its paid off, I'm giving them about 2 weeks notice and a middle finger.

I am responding to the situation the best way I can. I don't care if the company is successful. I don't care if they meet profit goals. I don't care if employees leave and leave them in a world of hurt. I relish in their corporate setbacks and failures.

They forced the change on me, and I'm doing to them what they deserve.

Fact of life. Every day I want to quit. I truly detest every single person in the new company.
 
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Most of these younger people will eventually "self actualize" and realize they have to work extremely hard to achieve the better lifestyle they desire. I don't think it is so much that the system or the economy is worse now than previously. I think it is more a matter of them figuring out the moves they need to make to be successful within the system. In other words, find something they are good at, want to do, and can make money at. Then work within that field for years, building a body of knowledge and experience. Be ruthless with employers and leave as soon as you can make more money somewhere else for a few years.

Overall, I still think America offers a lot of opportunities for people who want to work hard and are willing to get some education.

In other countries, I see people with no opportunities, no education, no purpose.
 
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Identity Politics is the culprit for about 90% of the problems. We're not citizens anymore, just roving tribes looking for something to be mad about. There's no glue to hold us together, no common values. Now it's just me me me....
 
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Seems like the thread on 'quiet quitters' would be relevant to this discussion.
 
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It starts at the top. Look at Biden. What a sorry excuse for leadership. Hides during the election and comes out now and then as POTUS. He has become insanely wealthy sucking at the public teat.
 
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I once heard…

“No one ever laid on their deathbed and said I wish I had worked more”


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