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April 20, 2020, 07:46 AM
h2oys
Monday Morning Quote of the Week
• Do not put your faith in what statistics say until you have carefully considered what they do not say. - William W. Watt
April 20, 2020, 07:52 AM
12131
Also known as Lies, damned lies, and statistics. Big Grin


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April 20, 2020, 10:08 AM
h2oys
True Q.

You always have to consider the source of the stats, plus, the person who might twist the statistics to their own end.
April 20, 2020, 02:36 PM
mcgivern
If all the statisticians were laid end to end, they couldn't reach a conclusion.
April 20, 2020, 03:36 PM
Scoutmaster
Many people use statistics the way the drunk uses a lamp post - to hold themselves up rather than for any light they might provide.




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
April 20, 2020, 03:43 PM
Krazeehorse
Figures lie and liars figure.


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April 20, 2020, 04:23 PM
.38supersig
Statistics are:

52 % speculation
49 % what they want the numbers to say
2.4% attention to detail and accuracy.



April 20, 2020, 05:01 PM
XinTX
89.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


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April 20, 2020, 05:46 PM
odin
I must disagree about statistics, if they are used correctly. John Lott used stats to show that areas with a large number of firearms influenced the crime rate. Read "More guns, less crime"! His process was vetted by his peers (other statisticians" and was deemed sound!!! So, as long as the stats have been challenged and proven to be correct, I'll go with that!!!
April 20, 2020, 06:12 PM
Scoutmaster
quote:
Originally posted by odin:
I must disagree about statistics, if they are used correctly. John Lott used stats to show that areas with a large number of firearms influenced the crime rate. Read "More guns, less crime"! His process was vetted by his peers (other statisticians" and was deemed sound!!! So, as long as the stats have been challenged and proven to be correct, I'll go with that!!!


Whenever someone provides me with stats to prove their point, I ask for the root data, to see how it was collected and analyzed. 99% of the time they walk away. (IE, they have no clue or they know they are bogus).




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944