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May 03, 2020, 02:40 PM
architect
Fastening to drywall help
Stage -- Operation/Hardware
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0 ------ Just drive a screw into the drywall
1 ------ (when #0 strips out) use those little plastic anchors
2 ------ (when #1 strips out) use threaded aluminum anchors
3 ------ (when #2 strips out) ??????????????
99 ----- Cut out and patch in a new piece of drywall
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Are there options for #3 (other than toggles, have had some bad luck with toggles)?

Doesn't have to support a lot of weight, but should be able to resist multiple light loads (e.g. wiggling).
May 03, 2020, 02:46 PM
Skins2881
I've never had problems with number two.

This is what you are talking about for #2 right?


If so you next step is toggle bolts.



Jesse

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May 03, 2020, 02:46 PM
1lowlife
If I need something secure, I'll use TOGGLER 2-Pack Assorted Length x 3/16-in Dia Toggle Bolt Drywall Anchor (Screws Included).

It is a better toggle bolt..
May 03, 2020, 02:48 PM
Eponym


Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHb-Tcvkn7M

Skip to 15:13 for test results.

I chose two EZ Anchor Toggles to hang a medicine cabinet.

3 --- Drive screw(s) into stud(s), possibly using a cross member to span studs.
May 03, 2020, 02:48 PM
MattW
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
I've never had problems with number two.

This is what you are talking about for #2 right?


If so you next step is toggle bolts.


I've had good luck with these too.

What is it you're wanting to hang? May help guide some options.
May 03, 2020, 02:52 PM
mark60
Monkey Hooks
May 03, 2020, 02:58 PM
architect
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
I've never had problems with number two.

This is what you are talking about for #2 right?


If so you next step is toggle bolts.


Yes, #2 is the EZ-Anchor thingie. This particular application is a toilet roll holder that gets wiggled multiple times a day (so it is, indeed, a problem with number two if you will). The EZ-Anchors have worked loose to the point that they can no longer be screwed down firmly, and they just spin when the fastening screws are threaded into them. I know only one size of EZ-Anchor, perhaps there are bigger ones?
May 03, 2020, 03:14 PM
Skins2881
Yeah those things won't withstand long term wiggling. Toggle bolts or the thing lowlife posted are your answer.



Jesse

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May 03, 2020, 03:21 PM
bigdeal
Best sheetrock anchoring solution that's going to take abuse...find a stud and screw into it.


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May 03, 2020, 03:25 PM
a1abdj
quote:
the thing lowlife posted are your answer.



I have a swinging baby gate that blocks off the stairs. The kids practically swing off of that thing. I used these after several other failures, and they haven't given up yet.


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May 03, 2020, 04:41 PM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
Best sheetrock anchoring solution that's going to take abuse...find a stud and screw into it.


Barring that, cut out the drywall between two studs, attach wood between the stud (recess it from the stud faces to help with the next step), use the piece of drywall you cut out to patch the hole.

My towel racks and toilet paper holders can double as grab bars. Razz
May 03, 2020, 04:45 PM
Skins2881
^^^ highly recommended if you are planning on painting or remodeling. Company I used to work for it was almost standard practice especially if customer was over 60.



Jesse

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May 03, 2020, 04:55 PM
zipriderson
quote:
Originally posted by architect:
quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
I've never had problems with number two.

This is what you are talking about for #2 right?


If so you next step is toggle bolts.


Yes, #2 is the EZ-Anchor thingie. This particular application is a toilet roll holder that gets wiggled multiple times a day (so it is, indeed, a problem with number two if you will). The EZ-Anchors have worked loose to the point that they can no longer be screwed down firmly, and they just spin when the fastening screws are threaded into them. I know only one size of EZ-Anchor, perhaps there are bigger ones?


I have the same exact problem in my powder room. I've replaced, and slight moved the anchor points in the drywall. It just comes loose overtime. Probably doesn't help my young son puts his weight on it.

I just haven't gotten around to replacing the drywall patch, sanding, mudding, painting. etc. . . It's the only real solution in my book.
May 03, 2020, 06:47 PM
PowerSurge
If no studs, toggle bolts. If studs, wood screws. Toggles are what’s holding up my TP dispensers and they’ve been good for years and years. I’ve even had to hang electrical panels and other devices at work with large toggle bolts, when necessary.


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May 03, 2020, 07:21 PM
Skins2881
quote:
I just haven't gotten around to replacing the drywall patch, sanding, mudding, painting. etc. . . It's the only real solution in my book.


If you have to replace drywall, and you know it's going to be abused, do what trapper suggested and add wood to support it.



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
May 03, 2020, 09:20 PM
comet24
If you have pulled an anchor that pulled out, putting another one in the same spot isn't going to work. The drywall around that anchor is compromised.

You need to move a few inches away if you want to us another anchor.

quote:
Doesn't have to support a lot of weight, but should be able to resist multiple light loads (e.g. wiggling).


Wiggling will cause most drywall anchors to fail over time.

If you have to patch the wall consider cutting it out and putting in some support.


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May 03, 2020, 09:59 PM
Scooter123
I go straight to the toggles, never had a problem with those.


I've stopped counting.
May 03, 2020, 10:34 PM
dsiets
Toggle bolts? Everything I know about 'em I learned from Adam Carolla.

May 04, 2020, 08:43 AM
henryaz
 
If I cannot hit a stud to anchor whatever, I cut a piece of wood to screw to the studs, and anchor the device to the wood. Paint the wood to match the wall, if needed.
 
Sometimes you can even hide the wood. E.g., to anchor something where the provided anchor holes are 8" apart, use a piece of wood 9"-10" wide and 3"-4" tall. Anchor the wood with two screws vertically to a single stud. If the corners of the wood show, cut off a 45 degree piece from each corner, or round the corner.



When in doubt, mumble
May 04, 2020, 10:41 AM
gpbst3
quote:
Originally posted by mark60:
Monkey Hooks


Not sure what your hanging but Monkey Hooks are pure awesomeness. Two of those bad boys are holding up a 40 lb a candle decorative thingy hanging over my bed.