Twelve years ain't no cake walk.

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Originally posted by bcereuss:
Still not enough...but better than “1 week each year on the anniversary of her death to honor her life” the defense proposed.

I read that on fox this morning. Also the little tidbit about continuing to serve his community blah blah blah.

What they were really saying is keep him out of jail long enough to contact someone back in the mother country to smuggle him out asap and disappear.

Glad they saw through that ruse.

Immediately after finishing his sentence, he shoud be deported. If he's naturalized, he should be stripped of his citizenship. He should never have been allowed into this country.

Have a car waiting for him the minute he leaves prison. Drive him stratight to the airport and send him back to the shithole from whence he came. We want to know his name no more.

So he will be out in 8 years, if he makes it that long.

Outstanding. 12.5 years is not a slap on the wrist, could have been more lenient.

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Originally posted by oddball:
Outstanding. 12.5 years is not a slap on the wrist, could have been more lenient.

I agree.

Since there wasn't from what I read any demonstrable 'pre-meditation' - this outcome is about the most you could expect (IANAL)

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Have a car waiting for him the minute he leaves prison. Drive him stratight to the airport

I would not be surprised to hear he gets snuffed in prison.

that would be a highly desirable outcome for the taxpayers

It would be a real shame if he startled a guard.

A real shame.

This is from Law Abiding Citizen, an awesome movie.


Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XgWHGk6TYQ

https://www.police1.com/legal/...th-2JKV0L2Vzd8En8EL/

Ex-cop's murder verdict overturned in Australian woman's death

“We’ve said from the beginning that this was a tragedy but it wasn’t a murder,” said an attorney representing former Minneapolis officer Mohamed Noor

Sep 15, 2021

By Amy Forliti
Associated Press

MINNEAPOLIS — The Minnesota Supreme Court on Wednesday reversed the third-degree murder conviction of a former Minneapolis police officer who fatally shot an Australian woman in 2017, saying the charge doesn't fit the circumstances in the case.

Mohamed Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter in the death of Justine Ruszczyk Damond, a dual U.S.-Australian citizen who called 911 to report a possible sexual assault behind her home. He was sentenced to 12 1/2 years on the murder count but was not sentenced for manslaughter.

The ruling means his murder conviction is overturned and the case will now go back to the district court, where he will be sentenced on the manslaughter count. He has already served more than 28 months of his murder sentence. If sentenced to the presumptive four years for manslaughter, he could be eligible for supervised release around the end of this year.

Caitlinrose Fisher, one of the attorneys who worked on Noor's appeal, said she's grateful that the Minnesota Supreme Court clarified what constitutes third-degree murder, and she hopes that will lead to greater equity and consistency in charging decisions.

“We’ve said from the beginning that this was a tragedy but it wasn’t a murder, and now the Supreme Court agrees and recognizes that,” she said.

Messages left Wednesday with the Hennepin County Attorney's Office, which prosecuted the case, were not immediately returned.

The ruling could give former Minneapolis Officer Derek Chauvin grounds to contest his own third-degree murder conviction in George Floyd's death in May 2020. But that wouldn't have much impact on Chauvin since he was also convicted of the more serious count of second-degree murder and is serving 22 1/2 years. Experts say it's unlikely Chauvin would be successful in appealing his second-degree murder conviction.

The ruling in Noor's case was also closely watched for its possible impact on three other former Minneapolis officers awaiting trial in Floyd's death. Prosecutors had wanted to add charges of aiding and abetting third-degree murder against them, but that's unlikely to happen now. The trio are due to go on trial in March on charges of aiding and abetting both second-degree murder and manslaughter.

In Wednesday's ruling, the court said that for a third-degree murder charge, also known as “depraved-mind murder,” the person’s mental state must show a “generalized indifference to human life, which cannot exist when the defendant’s conduct is directed with particularity at the person who is killed.”

The justices said that the only reasonable inference that can be drawn in Noor’s case is that his conduct was directed with particularity at Damond, “and the evidence is therefore insufficient to sustain his conviction ... for depraved-mind murder.”

State law has defined third-degree murder as “an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life.” A central dispute has been whether “dangerous to others” must be read as plural, or if the fatal act can be directed at a single, specific person.

Fisher argued on appeal that the language requires that a defendant’s actions be directed at more than one person, and that the law is meant for cases such as indiscriminate killings.

But prosecutors urged the Minnesota Supreme Court to uphold the third-degree murder conviction, saying that nearly all killings by officers are directed at a specific person.

“If you maintain that a person cannot be convicted of third-degree murder ... if their actions are directed at a particular person, there is not going to be an officer-involved shooting that can be prosecuted under Minnesota’s depraved-mind murder statute,” Hennepin County prosecutor Jean Burdorf said during oral arguments in June.

Noor testified in his 2019 trial that a loud bang on his squad car made him fear for his and his partner’s life, so he reached across his partner from the passenger seat and fired through the driver’s window. Fisher told the Supreme Court justices that “it would be very hard to imagine” that an officer’s “split-second reaction to a perceived threat” would count as a “depraved-mind murder” but that other charges could be justified instead, such as manslaughter.

“Mohamed Noor did not act with a depraved mind. Mohamed Noor was not indifferent to human life,” Fisher said during her arguments before the Supreme Court. “With the benefit of hindsight we now know that Mr. Noor made a tragic split-second mistake. But if there is to be any meaningful difference between murder and manslaughter, that mistake is not sufficient to sustain Mr. Noor’s conviction for third-degree murder.”

She said Wednesday that she had not yet talked to Noor, but knows the opinion will mean a lot.

“He really believed that he was saving his partner's life that night, and instead he tragically caused the loss of an innocent life,” she said. “Of course that is incredibly challenging, but I think just having reaffirmation that a mistake like that isn’t murder will mean more than words can say.”

I’m at a loss for words. I shouldn’t be surprised.

I had typed out a much longer response about Chauvin vs this case, but it makes no difference. Once politics and the media get involved, our judicial system is no better than those of third world dictatorships.

https://www.kxxv.com/news/nati...ntenced-to-57-months

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — A former Minneapolis police officer who fatally shot an unarmed woman after she called 911 to report a possible rape behind her home has been sentenced to 57 months in prison.

That sentencing was the maximum term possible under the state of Minnesota’s sentencing guidelines.

Mohamed Noor was initially convicted of third-degree murder and manslaughter in the 2017 death of Justine Ruszczyk Damond, a dual U.S.-Australian citizen…
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He’s already served 28 months….prolly will be out in a few weeks for good behavior

I attended a class that took a fairly deep dive into the civil side of this case.

They “settled” for $20 million.

The agency screwed the pooch nine ways from Sunday in failing all the way around with this guy. At each turn, he failed in training, and field training. He was pushed through anyways. And it wasn’t the cops that screwed this up. It came straight from city hall wanting the victory lap of having a Somali officer.

And he’s already out of jail.

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Originally posted by jljones:
I attended a class that took a fairly deep dive into the civil side of this case.

They “settled” for $20 million.

The agency screwed the pooch nine ways from Sunday in failing all the way around with this guy. At each turn, he failed in training, and field training. He was pushed through anyways. And it wasn’t the cops that screwed this up. It came straight from city hall wanting the victory lap of having a Somali officer.

And he’s already out of jail.

I heard the same thing about a year ago from a former Hennepin County Attorney. I have a funny feeling that there's going to be a few more messed up incidents because of messed up cops that were hired by messed up departments, because some City/County/State entity messed them up.

(BTW, what's that little spider with a stinger called??? Exactly )