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ID a snake, dead, badly smashed
May 18, 2021, 07:19 PM
ARmanID a snake, dead, badly smashed
pnc bank tennesseeFound this on our little walk tonight. I can't figure out what kind it is. It's badly smashed.
SIG Forum is a wealth of knowledge so I figured that I would ask the brain trust.
ARman
May 18, 2021, 07:20 PM
rburgIts a good snake.
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May 18, 2021, 07:30 PM
PASigCopperhead?
May 18, 2021, 07:50 PM
220-9erquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Copperhead?
Definitely not a Copperhead.
What part of the country?\
Copperheads have a dark outline around a lighter area, looks the shape of a Hersey's Kisses.
https://files.nc.gov/ncparks/c...d-field-id-guide.pdf
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May 18, 2021, 07:55 PM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Copperhead?
Looks more like a gravelhead.
May 18, 2021, 08:28 PM
ARmanquote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Copperhead?
Definitely not a Copperhead.
What part of the country?\
Copperheads have a dark outline around a lighter area, looks the shape of a Hersey's Kisses.
https://files.nc.gov/ncparks/c...d-field-id-guide.pdf
I'm in the Bluegrass area of Kentucky, along the Ohio River.
ARman
May 18, 2021, 08:30 PM
ChasinTailsLooks like a bull snake to me...
May 18, 2021, 10:59 PM
maladatquote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
Copperhead?
Definitely not a Copperhead.
What part of the country?\
Copperheads have a dark outline around a lighter area, looks the shape of a Hersey's Kisses.
https://files.nc.gov/ncparks/c...d-field-id-guide.pdf
Agreed on not a copperhead. Obviously not a water moccasin or coral snake. While there is one species of rattlesnake that doesn't have rattles, it only lives on some islands off Baja California, so it would be very odd to find one in Kentucky.
Having eliminated the four types of venomous snakes native to the US, even without further ID, it is extraordinarily unlikely it was a venomous snake.
The closest match from the following guide to common Kentucky snakes looks like the young black rat snake, but I wouldn't call it a conclusive ID.
https://fw.ky.gov/Wildlife/Documents/kysnakebook.pdfMay 19, 2021, 03:54 AM
OttoSigLooks like what we call a rat snake or corn snake.
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Sig209can't really make out the head shape or presence of a small rattle
but it 'could' be this guy
http://herpsofnc.org/pigmy-rattlesnake/------------------------
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May 19, 2021, 06:23 AM
HayesGreenerI think Sig 209 is correct. Not all pygmy's have rattles. Nasty bite and they lie is small spaces.
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May 19, 2021, 08:46 AM
220-9erCertainly resembles a Pygmy but that's a good bit north of where this article says they live. Also looks like it says the farther north the darker color they have.
https://srelherp.uga.edu/snakes/sismil.htm
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May 19, 2021, 09:11 AM
SBrooksNOT copperhead.
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May 19, 2021, 09:25 AM
PerceptionLooks kind of like a pigmy rattlesnake, but seems to be well outside it's accepted range.
Could also be an Eastern Hognose, they have all kinds of morphs and some of them are similar to that. Hard to tell without a better picture.
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jhe888quote:
Originally posted by maladat:
Agreed on not a copperhead. Obviously not a water moccasin or coral snake. While there is one species of rattlesnake that doesn't have rattles, it only lives on some islands off Baja California, so it would be very odd to find one in Kentucky.
Having eliminated the four types of venomous snakes native to the US, even without further ID, it is extraordinarily unlikely it was a venomous snake.
The closest match from the following guide to common Kentucky snakes looks like the young black rat snake, but I wouldn't call it a conclusive ID.
https://fw.ky.gov/Wildlife/Documents/kysnakebook.pdf
I agree 100%. It is clearly not any of the venomous snakes. The markings don't match a pygmy rattlesnake, it lacks the orange/red color along the top, and the background color is awfully light, too. It could be a rat snake, but there are a lot of snakes with similar patterns. Without the head, it is harder to tell.
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SBrooksHognose or rat snake seem to match best after looking at a few pics elsewhere...
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SBrooks
May 19, 2021, 09:59 AM
gearhoundsLooks like a hognose snake to me.
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May 19, 2021, 08:21 PM
Black92LXquote:
Originally posted by ChasinTails:
Looks like a bull snake to me...
This is my vote.
They can be light grey before their first shed.
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