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Found this on our little walk tonight. I can't figure out what kind it is. It's badly smashed.

SIG Forum is a wealth of knowledge so I figured that I would ask the brain trust.


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Its a good snake.


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Copperhead?


 
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Copperhead?


Definitely not a Copperhead.
What part of the country?\
Copperheads have a dark outline around a lighter area, looks the shape of a Hersey's Kisses.

https://files.nc.gov/ncparks/c...d-field-id-guide.pdf


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Copperhead?


Looks more like a gravelhead.
 
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Copperhead?


Definitely not a Copperhead.
What part of the country?\
Copperheads have a dark outline around a lighter area, looks the shape of a Hersey's Kisses.

https://files.nc.gov/ncparks/c...d-field-id-guide.pdf



I'm in the Bluegrass area of Kentucky, along the Ohio River.

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Looks like a bull snake to me...
 
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Copperhead?


Definitely not a Copperhead.
What part of the country?\
Copperheads have a dark outline around a lighter area, looks the shape of a Hersey's Kisses.

https://files.nc.gov/ncparks/c...d-field-id-guide.pdf


Agreed on not a copperhead. Obviously not a water moccasin or coral snake. While there is one species of rattlesnake that doesn't have rattles, it only lives on some islands off Baja California, so it would be very odd to find one in Kentucky.

Having eliminated the four types of venomous snakes native to the US, even without further ID, it is extraordinarily unlikely it was a venomous snake.

The closest match from the following guide to common Kentucky snakes looks like the young black rat snake, but I wouldn't call it a conclusive ID.

https://fw.ky.gov/Wildlife/Documents/kysnakebook.pdf
 
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Looks like what we call a rat snake or corn snake.





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can't really make out the head shape or presence of a small rattle

but it 'could' be this guy

http://herpsofnc.org/pigmy-rattlesnake/

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I think Sig 209 is correct. Not all pygmy's have rattles. Nasty bite and they lie is small spaces.


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Certainly resembles a Pygmy but that's a good bit north of where this article says they live. Also looks like it says the farther north the darker color they have.

https://srelherp.uga.edu/snakes/sismil.htm


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NOT copperhead.


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Looks kind of like a pigmy rattlesnake, but seems to be well outside it's accepted range.

Could also be an Eastern Hognose, they have all kinds of morphs and some of them are similar to that. Hard to tell without a better picture.




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Agreed on not a copperhead. Obviously not a water moccasin or coral snake. While there is one species of rattlesnake that doesn't have rattles, it only lives on some islands off Baja California, so it would be very odd to find one in Kentucky.

Having eliminated the four types of venomous snakes native to the US, even without further ID, it is extraordinarily unlikely it was a venomous snake.

The closest match from the following guide to common Kentucky snakes looks like the young black rat snake, but I wouldn't call it a conclusive ID.

https://fw.ky.gov/Wildlife/Documents/kysnakebook.pdf


I agree 100%. It is clearly not any of the venomous snakes. The markings don't match a pygmy rattlesnake, it lacks the orange/red color along the top, and the background color is awfully light, too. It could be a rat snake, but there are a lot of snakes with similar patterns. Without the head, it is harder to tell.

Don't wantonly kill snakes. I know the OP didn't.




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Hognose or rat snake seem to match best after looking at a few pics elsewhere...


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Looks like a hognose snake to me.




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Looks like a bull snake to me...


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