I'm not sure where you guys hang out but no- No sexual hazing and no dry humping by another male.

This isn't an off hand remark it's physical contact which would be assault in a court of law.

It doesn't matter what the sexes were- It wasn't done willingly.

Never pledged a frat but I did play some sports. Nothing like that happened. Only time some idiot tried something remotely sexual to me was on a Boy Scouts camping trip and some bully thought it'd be funny to try yanking my pants down. He chased me until I was able to grab a stick and break it across his stomach. Problem solved.

Yeah, I played football in the early 80's and was in the Army enlisted, ROTC and officer training and never ran into anything like a 'rape table' and humping another dude for hazing. Maybe it's a regional thing?

Fists would have been flying - no way I would just play along with that nonsense.

My only gripe is that it was done on the taxpayers dime.

Want to haze or joke or grabass with your friends, fine, whatever, most of it is harmless and hazing rituals are as old as civilization and rampant, but do that sort of monkey business on your own time or not at all. Do it on my/our dime and it's a huge problem.

This is criminal behavior. Any unwanted contact is at least battery. If it is sexually aggressive, as it appears to be here, that's a sexual assault.

This may be OK for some of you on this board. But if you restrain me unlawfully, and put your junk anywhere near me, I'm going full on ninja on you. If your junk is that close to me, I'm tearing it off. If I'm armed and you assault me, sexually or otherwise, you are going to meet the business end of some nasty ordnance. And, unless you kill me, I'm going to sue you out of this century. Absolutely everything you own is going to be mine. Your job? GONE! I will not rest until you reach the point where you can't get a pay check. I'm sending my complaint to absolutely every one of your family, friends, congregation, and business prospects.

I don't approve of hazing in general, but this type of behavior is not funny, or good natured fun. It is not just wrong, it's against the law, nature, reason, and God.

H&K-Guy

^^^^I'm with HKGuy

Against God?

No I never joined a frat. I hung around some frat guys who were my friends, but if getting humped by dudes is a requirement to join your organization, well, that's not group I give a fuck to be a part of.

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Originally posted by Fenris:
Against God?

OK, maybe your God is fine with sexual assault, but mine ain't.

H&K-Guy

(snort)

H.K.guy, well said. I have nothing to add that you did not already quite clearly state. Where I live, and was raised, this would no way, shape, or form be tolerated. There would be blood.

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Originally posted by YellowJacket:
nobody played sports? joined a fraternity? this all sounds pretty tame to me but clearly, not everyone handles it the same.

I played sports and I was in a fraternity in college. We had some hazing, but no guy ever tried to dry hump me. That's weird.



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Originally posted by Rey HRH:

...hazings with a sexual component is expected as an outlet.

That's about the most fucked-uptest statement, thought and acceptance of action I've ever read.

Stop thinking with your dicks!!! Dickheads.

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:
In my Navy experience, we've had those and I would have thought for sailors who are all locked up with each other with no women at that time, hazings with a sexual component is expected as an outlet.

I went through a Time Honored Tradition when I made Chief....many years ago it was called hazing.

There was no dry humping nor was there any type of sexual stuff whatsoever.

I wouldn't tolerate anyone doing anything like that to me, nor would I visit it upon anyone else.

I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest.


I was in the service. I was on ships and ashore. We talked like a buncha sailors and we spoke about women and butts and everything else-never would we have held someone down and dry humped someone. What the fuck is wrong with these people.

Thank you.

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Originally posted by MikeinNC:
I went through a Time Honored Tradition when I made Chief....many years ago it was called hazing.

There was no dry humping nor was there any type of sexual stuff whatsoever.

I wouldn't tolerate anyone doing anything like that to me, nor would I visit it upon anyone else.

I hope they are prosecuted to the fullest.


I was in the service. I was on ships and ashore. We talked like a buncha sailors and we spoke about women and butts and everything else-never would we have held someone down and dry humped someone. What the fuck is wrong with these people.

Yea... No. Hell No.

I spent 20 years in the Navy and went through various hazing traditions most of which are no longer allowed and never had anyone of them involve rubbing your junk on another Dude anyone.

We talked like sailors and there was at times sexual overtones but if anyone had done something like this on the ship at best they would have "fallen" down a ladder. Quite possibly had a run in with a dogging wrench while close to a life rail. At night.

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Originally posted by JJexp:
I'm willing to bet that these customs agents were probably no older than 23-24 years old at most. I'd chalk it up to guys hazing guys, and nothing more nefarious than than. It's unfortunate for them that it's likely getting blown severely out of proportion.

Well, as much as I prefer to give people the benefit of doubt, I'm going to have to eat my words.

"Tito Catota, 38, Parmenio I. Perez, 40, and Michael Papagni, 32 were charged with assaulting and intimidating two fellow officers during working hours, according to the statement, the U.S. Attorney’s Office said."

These idiots should have known better and should have behaved as professionals, not as immature thugs. Burn em at the stake.

Link to source article

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Originally posted by craigcpa:

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Originally posted by Rey HRH:

...hazings with a sexual component is expected as an outlet.

That's about the most fucked-uptest statement, thought and acceptance of action I've ever read.

Stop thinking with your dicks!!! Dickheads.

Just because I understand it doesn't mean I accept it. You're a little fucked up yourself in your comprehension.

I take it you've never spent 4 months out at sea with 6000 men and no women. Counterintuitively, I think part of the purpose is to show you're secure about your manliness.

I'm with HKguy. At no time will I allow someone to restrain me against my will (being arrested excluded obviously).

An old work group threatened to duct tape me to a chair and shove a dildo in my mouth on my last day of work. I told them that in no way were they to try, as I would rip someone's throat out.
They eventually realized I was serious.