When a policeman comes up to your car window with his pistol drawn and orders you out, you shouldn't say "Go away" and then attempt to drive off

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-Bomber Harris

March 25, 2022, 08:59 AM

229DAK

Well, there's the problem...he backed into the 'Exit Only'.

March 25, 2022, 09:13 AM

papaac

It appeared to me that what looked like out of battery was the angle showing the weapon light.

March 25, 2022, 09:18 AM

trapper189

Those meter maids take their jobs seriously.

March 25, 2022, 09:23 AM

stickman428

I had to watch it a few times to figure out where the damn car went. That happened fast.

March 25, 2022, 09:27 AM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by papaac:
It appeared to me that what looked like out of battery was the angle showing the weapon light.

Look at the back of the slide while he's wandering around the overturned car. The slide is sitting 1/8 of an inch (or so) rearward compared to usual.

When fully in battery, the rear slide plate is flush with both the "bump" on the back of the grip above the beavertail and the protruding knob of the ejector portion of the trigger mechanism housing.

March 25, 2022, 09:28 AM

CQB60

The NY AG's Office investigating the Thruway chase that ended in trooper fatally shooting man stated The driver, James Huber, 38, of North East, Pa., can be seen sitting in his car. He's wearing a ball cap and a tan-colored hoodie. He appears to turn his face away from the trooper while muttering something.

State Police Major Carla A. DiRienzo said the trooper fired his gun (Glock 21 G4) after reaching into the man's car as the man put the car into reverse.

"Get out! Get out!" Trooper Nigro orders, pointing his gun at Huber.
"Go away," Huber replies, quietly.
"Get out!" Nigro repeats.

"No," Huber says.
Huber reaches his right hand down to something around the center console.

"Nope," he says.

The camera shows Nigro reaching into Huber's vehicle with his left hand to grab the hood on Huber's sweatshirt while holding his gun in his right hand near Huber's head.
"Get the...." Nigro says, followed by a sudden flurry of motion and sound. Nigro fires twice and the car lurches backward.
Nigro appears to fall on the ground as the car moves in reverse, out of view of the camera.

Two other videos show the chase, which began on the Thruway in Brant at about 10:38 a.m. Troopers said that the tan-colored sedan was traveling faster than 100 mph at times.

The chase continued to Exit 53, where Huber allegedly struck a state police vehicle and then continued north on Interstate 190 toward downtown. The troopers broke off the chase and then searched for Huber downtown, state police previously said.

The two other videos released Wednesday show Nigro driving during the chase. The third showed his encounter with Huber.
The facades of buildings along Washington Street can be seen through the windshield of Nigro's vehicle, before he makes a turn onto Eagle Street and quickly exits the vehicle, holding a gun in front of him with both hands.

Cary Arnold, a Pennsylvania woman who had a daughter with James Huber, 38, of North East, Pa., 18 years ago, told The Buffalo News on Monday that she believes Huber might have been heading for the Peace Bridge rally in support of Canadian truckers protesting that country's Covid-19 vaccine mandates.

March 25, 2022, 09:37 AM

mojojojo

Geeze. Instead of arriving at the Peace Bridge he ends up at the Rest in Peace ramp.

March 25, 2022, 10:06 AM

Balzé Halzé

quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
That had to be a G20 because it blasted that Toyota half way down the block. The recoil knocked that Trooper on his butt..

That made me laugh. Very good

March 25, 2022, 11:45 AM

Chowser

Good shoot. Going to see if we can replicate the out of battery with some contact shots and a dummy.

March 25, 2022, 01:45 PM

P220 Smudge

I watched it at quarter speed and went frame-by-frame riding the space bar last night. It looks out of battery before he ever fires or even makes what could’ve been muzzle contact with the guy. Low res crappy pic here because mobile:

Weak or worn out RSA?

March 25, 2022, 01:59 PM

sdy

also watched at .25 speed
The driver's right hand goes to the shift knob

March 25, 2022, 02:13 PM

hjs157

quote:
Originally posted by Chowser:
Good shoot. Going to see if we can replicate the out of battery with some contact shots and a dummy.

I've been trying to duplicate this with my G17 Gen 5. If I manually lower the slide very slowly, there is a position of slight resistance immediately proceeding the moment the barrel completely locks with an audible click. While I was unable to cause my slide to rest in this position before completely locking, I suspect a dirty or dry pistol may become hung-up if the slide meets resistance or is pressed firmly against the target when fired. Of note, on my pistol a pull of the trigger will release the striker in this particular out-of-battery scenario.

*Update 03-27-2022: Whatever was causing the situation outlined above was corrected with a detail strip and thorough slide cleaning.

Here's an illustration of the slide (manually) held in this position before the barrel completely locks with an audible click.

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March 25, 2022, 04:19 PM

nhtagmember

another senseless covid death...

but it ended up the proper way

stupid hurt for a second...

March 25, 2022, 04:27 PM

Skins2881

quote:
Originally posted by hjs157:
quote:
Originally posted by Chowser:
Good shoot. Going to see if we can replicate the out of battery with some contact shots and a dummy.

I've been trying to duplicate this with my G17 Gen 5. If I manually lower the slide very slowly, there is a position of slight resistance immediately proceeding the moment the barrel completely locks with an audible click. While I was unable to cause my slide to rest in this position before completely locking, I suspect a dirty or dry pistol may become hung-up if the slide meets resistance or is pressed firmly against the target when fired. Of note, on my pistol a pull of the trigger will release the striker in this particular out-of-battery scenario.

Here's an illustration of the slide (manually) held in this position before the barrel completely locks with an audible click.
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Damn Glock people trying to control the narrative as usual.

March 25, 2022, 04:44 PM

r0gue

quote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
quote:
Originally posted by hjs157:
quote:
Originally posted by Chowser:
Good shoot. Going to see if we can replicate the out of battery with some contact shots and a dummy.

I've been trying to duplicate this with my G17 Gen 5. If I manually lower the slide very slowly, there is a position of slight resistance immediately proceeding the moment the barrel completely locks with an audible click. While I was unable to cause my slide to rest in this position before completely locking, I suspect a dirty or dry pistol may become hung-up if the slide meets resistance or is pressed firmly against the target when fired. Of note, on my pistol a pull of the trigger will release the striker in this particular out-of-battery scenario.

Here's an illustration of the slide (manually) held in this position before the barrel completely locks with an audible click.
[IMG][/IMG]

Damn Glock people trying to control the narrative as usual.