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Chicago/Cook County is really working hard to become another Detroit. It looks like they are almost there. | |||
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The Illinois law enforcement bill of rights, as previous codified, states that an officer may not be interrogated unless the complaint was received via sworn affidavit. I was surprised to see this provision still remained in the statute, probably there because of influence from strong unions. The Commission for Accreditation of Law Enforcement Agencies (CALEA), made up of police executives from all over the country, has established widely accepted standards for law enforcement agencies since the early 80's, and addressed this issue almost 40 years ago. Agencies desiring accreditation are assessed periodically to determine if they have adopted standards, and if they are actually complying with them. CALEA Accreditation Standard # 52.1.1 states, “A written directive requires all complaints against the agency or its employees be investigated, to include anonymous complaints.” The rationale for the accreditation standard is that citizens may be hesitant to make a complaint out of fear of retaliation from law enforcement. Of course if the citizen who complains remains anonymous, they cannot be a witness against the officer for the alleged misconduct. It also recognizes that refusing to accept anonymous complaints may result in real misconduct being ignored. In Florida, since the 80's, internal investigations of officer conduct are confidential while the investigation is ongoing, but become public record at the conclusion of the investigation. We have been living with this provision of law for four decades and the sky has not yet fallen. Hiding the result of internal investigations is a slippery slope you do not want your department to go down, because it will always come out in the long run. My opinion of non-criminal unsubstantiated anonymous complaints has often been that someone was upset at some enforcement action, not officer misconduct. However, when you receive multiple anonymous complaints it is prudent to start looking for the fire that is causing the smoke. Often we discover officer demeanor is at issue that can be cleared up by a chat with the sergeant. Complaints of criminal activity would be handled like any other criminal investigation. CMSGT USAF (Retired) Chief of Police (Retired) | |||
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Sounds like there are some pretty hard heads in Chicago. While I sit here a just shake mine, I think theirs should be knocked together violently, over and over and over again. _________________________________________________ "Once abolish the God, and the Government becomes the God." --- G.K. Chesterton | |||
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Then the people of Philly deserve it. They asked for it by electing the guy. They need to live with the shit they created. _____________ | |||
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The people who did not vote for him don't deserve what has happened to the city. But yes. I agree with your general point. | |||
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Don't worry....they have a plan to fix the carjacking problem: "Illinois Lawmaker Wants To Ban ‘Grand Theft Auto,’ Claiming It’s Responsible For Increased Carjackings" Link | |||
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^^THIS!^^ What a (worse) shitshow this is going to turn into. -------- After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box. | |||
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Kevin, I will make a bet with you that homicides will hit the 1000 mark this year. | |||
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To all you guys and gals still on the Job in places like Chicago, Philly, L.A. etc; go to coffee, stay on coffee, go to lunch, then go to coffee, then go home safe. When you time is in, go to coffee one last time to say your goodbyes and then retire. God Bless and protect all of you. I'm so glad I'm out. | |||
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I have $100 on the “over” with the evidence techs and A/1 Violent Crimes. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Klusk, How much sick leave do you have? Time to use that balance as you city destroys itself.This message has been edited. Last edited by: gw3971, | |||
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Minneapolis is spending 6.4 million to recruit cops. I wonder why they need to spend that much for such a cushy job that everyone should be flocking to? Maybe because half the city council still wants to defund the police. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wire...ce-officers-75875382 | |||
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Great idea, because NY saw how well bail reform worked. The typical liberal (American socialist-communist) way of thinking, "Well it hasn't worked anywhere else, lets try it here!" _____________________________________________________ Sliced bread, the greatest thing since the 1911. | |||
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The population in Chicago now has more POS voters than law abiding citizens, we all knew the day would come as it has here and in all the large cities. Politicians only worry about re-election. Kim Fox despite all kinds of controversy was easily re-elected by the POS majority. We now have an open city as far as illegal immigrants, can't ask about there status or check to see if they are criminals.You can be sure they will be voting along with the POS voters, the rest of us are permanently screwed. I don't feel a bit sorry for the restaurants and big business in this town,you can be assured they overwhelmingly voted Democratic, especially the employees, the employers financially support. I say step back, let it happen, let them all feel the pain of there decisions.If I were a CPD member I would step back the farthest. It won't correct until it all falls down. | |||
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The IL residents I know that are aware of this, are not real thrilled about this law with regard to mandating the rest of the state start to act like Cook County. | |||
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Bulldog, CPD Sig, I too think we'll break the 1k mark. The killing season is fast approaching and I fear it will be a long and bloody summer. The Working Police..... "We the willing, led by the unknown, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful." | |||
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Exactly. It's state wide, not just Chicago. My niece's husband is an LEO is one of the far western suburbs and he is ready to turn in his badge over this. I would not be surprised if he and others do just that. _____________________________________________________________________ “One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell | |||
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| Too old of a Cat, to be licked by a Kitten |
"The Chicago way" is a completely different standard. The rest of the state may follow these rules, but here, we tend to do things differently. I'm sure CPD SIG and Bulldog know what I mean.  The Working Police..... "We the willing, led by the unknown, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful." | |||
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Illinois cops: Come to Iowa. Lots of agencies hiring. Many are offering lateral pay. Few will require another academy. We have good, well-funded pension systems, relatively user-friendly laws, a lower cost of living than Chicagoland for the most part, and many other benefits. One of the worst things about many of our larger (by Iowa standards) cities are the criminals imported from Chicago. Seriously... consider it. Feel free to email me for leads on jobs. | |||
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We Are...MARSHALL |
WV SP is hiring as well as many local agencies. Come to a place where the vast majority of people respect law enforcement officers. Build a man a fire and keep him warm for a night, set a man on fire and keep him warm the rest of his life. | |||
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