Well, younger people are inherently lazier and less loyal to their employer as they are less likely to have commitments to family, retirement plans, etc. Frankly, I'd rather an employee leave for a higher salary elsewhere as that weeds out the people who were only interested in a paycheck and not the company and customers they served.

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Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
Frankly, I'd rather an employee leave for a higher salary elsewhere as that weeds out the people who were only interested in a paycheck and not the company and customers they served.

Well, 99.9% of people aren't going to work because they love that specific job, or they just absolutely love their company.

They're doing it at a means to an end: To use the skills they've developed to earn money to support the needs and desires of themselves and their families. (This doesn't mean that they don't do a good job at work, or that they don't value the company or their customers... just that this specific job/company isn't their top priority.)

So if they can use those same skills at a similar job and earn more money and/or get better benefits in the process, it's natural that they're going to choose to do so.

Expecting everyone to fully prioritize the company and their customers and hamstring their own earnings in the process is asking a bit much. Especially in light of the fact that nearly every company prioritizes itself and its own profits over its workers.

The days of company leaders having the mindset of "take care of your workers and they'll take care of you" is long gone in most companies. Now it's all about the bottom line. Workers are an expense, not an asset, and they're constantly trying to minimize expenses so they can maximize profits.

Caring about the company makes things personal. When they ultimayely screw you over, it's just business- not personal. That is a mismatch of perspective now being corrected by job hopping.

I've had the same employer for 28 years. With the change in workforce age demographic, I've witnessed policies come out to incentivize staying and contributing to company's success (e.g. more access to performance based stock awards payed out at 50% in x years and remaining 50% in y years as long as you're still employed or officially retired).

As far as the employees leaving 1 to 2 years after being hired out of college:

many are leaving for LESS pay

they don't like performance feedback. Someone who has gotten participation trophies their whole life is shocked to learn they're average, below average, or need to get their poop in a group before they're terminated.

they don't like hierarchy and the fact that they aren't equal to experienced people.

they value work life balance over pay, and their definition of work life balance isn't the same as Gen x or booomers.

most are still at least partially on Mom & Dad's payroll (e.g. free vacation, free car insurance, living at home for free, etc) so caring less about pay makes sense.

their definition of work is being on premises or online, but way more social than Gen X or boomers.

many are leaving for places that don't have performance based pay so their time at work can be even more social

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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer.

I wouldn't say this is a deficiency of the worker necessarily.
I realize many want to blame them for a lack of loyalty but you have to understand this is a business relationship.
If you feel you can do better for whatever reason then nothing wrong with the move.
Generally I find employees are more loyal than employers.
Staying too long out of loyalty can be detrimental to a career especially if you pass up opportunities.
Just remember it is a two way relationship.

I have been in my profession for near 35 years now, and have been employed by 9 companies in that time. The modern job market is VERY different from that in the 70’s/ 80’s. With the exception of government jobs ( which have a different share of problems) most corporations do not make any effort to retain people. In very indemand specialties that my wife and I both have. We can go anywhere and have a job near instantly. If a different employer offers a better package ( work environment, benefits , pay ) there is absolutely no incentive to not jump.

Where I grew up, the old days of graduating high school, going to work at the foundry or auto plant for 30 years then collects a pension are LONG gone. That simply does not exist anymore.

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Originally posted by tatortodd:

As far as the employees leaving 1 to 2 years after being hired out of college:
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they don't like hierarchy and the fact that they aren't equal to experienced people.
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I saw that in the airline industry starting about 10 years ago. New hires complaining that senior pilots were "hogging" all the vacation. Complaining that more senior pilots were getting their pick of schedules and days off. Complaining that since they did the same job they should get the same pay. No, they don't do the same job. The senior people are actively mentoring, and are preventing undesirable events that an inexperienced pilot would not see coming.

They want what they call an egalitarian system, but which is in reality a socialist system.

The younger generation does not relate to a hierarchy, and they don't recognize a benefit to experience. I think it is due to them growing up in such a dumbed down society which did not emphasize personal excellence, and which in many cases denigrates success.