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It is impossible to isolate for confounding variables in observational studies. Doesn’t matter if it is cancer or Covid. | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sounds just like your typical alcoholic.LOL | |||
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Frangas non Flectes |
Every last word in that video. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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I’ve read about the link of alcohol to cancer and prostate problems over the years, but I stay away because I don’t have any desire for a buzz or straight-out intoxication. However, I love, Love, LOVE the darkest, thickest, stoutiest beers which I know of no non-alcoholic examples. That keeps me away from consuming any alcohol. Retired Texas Lawman | |||
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I think genetics probably has a lot to do with. All I have is anecdotal evidence. I've known people who drank and smoked into their 80's, no cancer. One of my closest friends had cancer twice, does not drink or smoke. Who knows? I'm going to live my life enjoying it's pleasures in moderation, ok, maybe a little bit more, and try not to worry about it. Too many boogey men out there to worry about. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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been laughing for 5 minutes | |||
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If the images of people being scrapped up off the freeway due to alcohol related accidents doesn’t deter society’s alcohol adoration, I doubt a four percent cancer rate will. I’m just saying, there’s so many other ways that alcohol will kill you before giving you cancer, and none of that worries most drinkers. Cancer is way down the list, I’d expect. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
High fructose corn syrup is another ingestible substance that most people aren't aware they're getting in their foods and has been added to many things in our diet. Because it's in so many products now and takes years, often decades to do it's damage, accurate studies to measure it's effect are hard to come by. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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^^^^ We'd all like to think that there's "something" we could do to avoid the Grim Reaper. In reality, he comes for all of us and most people with cancer or heart disease, or whatever didn't necessarily do any more of "that thing" than anyone else. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Hell, my wife recently just banned Hellmann's (Best Foods out by me) mayo from our house due to the shit ingredients she discovered is in it (a lot of GMO crap). Sucks cause I love Hellmann's, but I don't want to eat that crap either if it has shit ingredients. It's honestly her one biggest complaint about living in the US, the absolute shit that manufacturers are allowed to get away with in what they put into their products. And I have to agree with her. You just won't find GMO mayonnaise in France. It's not permitted. In fact, a lot of US food products are banned for this reason. The real kicker is that a lot of food in the grocery stores there is actually cheaper than what we have here and is of much better quality. The one food she'll admit that we in the US are far superior in is our red meat. Can't be beat, even in France. You can't find a decent ribeye over there, if you can find one at all. But you can get horse, so there's that. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Edge seeking Sharp blade! |
I quit Hellman's, alcohol and coffee in the last year. We're sold that booze is fun and games. It isn't. | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
Yeah, Duke's is a great substitute. We have it on the ship, but sadly I don't find it in Utah.
I quit the Hellmann's, but ain't no way I'll ever quit coffee or the boozing. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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If you are having 6+ drinks everyday, you are an alcoholic. SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE P322 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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I get it at Wal Mart here in Southern Colorado. _________________________ OH, Bonnie McMurray! | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Common misconception. Alcohol ≠ sugar. But, here's a funny ol' thing I did not know: Ref: https://twitter.com/hubermanru.../1728819151098028446 I have noticed, in the past, that cutting out what little moderate drinking I did seemed to have an impact on fat loss far in excess of what I would have expected from the small calorie intake reduction realized thereby. Here's the thing about cortisol: Increased cortisol levels have all kinds of negative effects--among them it increases blood sugars, stress, cancer risk, and insulin resistance. It may reduce Basal Metabolic Rate. It may reduce testosterone in males. In short: Persistent excess cortisol is not good. I think I've had one beer since Sober October. No spirits. I think I'm just gonna stick with avoiding the regular consumption of alcoholic beverages--even in moderation. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cirrhosis of the liver is at the top. Dying from pancreatitis or cirrhosis is pretty ugly. | |||
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Water is a solvent. Sorry, this is one of my "trigger" topics - the imprecise use of language, particularly technical things. That's like saying some natural remedy is "chemical free" - not so, everything is made up of chemicals. Thus the metric system did not really catch on in the States, unless you count the increasing popularity of the nine-millimeter bullet. - Dave Barry "Never go through life saying 'I should have'..." - quote from the 9/11 Boatlift Story (thanks, sdy for posting it) | |||
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These are the same statistical "analysis" methods that give us 'proof' of global warming & that commiecootie vaccines are 96% effective.
Heavy drinking "accounts for" ~50% of 4% of all cancers. But of course Heavy + Risky + Moderate drinking don't add up to 100% of the "accountable" cases, so you might assume there's 20% or more error in the analysis. The Order of the Statisticians probably just issued a fatwa on me for this post. Want to have a fun conversation? Explain that Cpk (process capability) on a 5-piece sample is meaningless, but required to get approval. Why 5-pieces? Because you can't fit any more on their stupid format AND you don't build enough samples to get a realistic Cpk anyway. To do it correctly would require >100 pages of paper that nobody would confirm since they don't understand the ~10 used now. Not to mention the 40+ man hours it would take to do the study & make the documents (I have 1 person to do 5 of these in 3 days). But if you don't put anything in that cell or you don't put a large enough number (that the creator &/or approver doesn't understand), it will highlight it red & you won't get it approved. That's actually the 'training' I overheard. I'm not an expert in statistics, but I have learned that if my only argument involves statistics, I have a shitty argument. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
But I'll take my chances with a shot of whiskey or a beer over an mRNA shot... mRNA COVID Vaccines May Be Triggering ‘Turbo Cancers’ in Young People: Experts Experts are seeing a puzzling rise in cancer in people under 50 that appears biologically different from late-onset cancers. While some claim cancer rates have been rising for decades and attribute the increase to sugary drinks, lifestyle, and sleep disruptions, others say mRNA COVID-19 vaccines have caused an emergence of “turbo cancers” —and U.S. regulatory agencies have not addressed the ever-growing problem. https://www.theepochtimes.com/...mpaign=new&utm_term= "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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