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Remember manual steering?
March 30, 2019, 12:03 PM
leaveraction jacksonRemember manual steering?
My 65 Coronet had manual steering, manual brakes and a 4 speed.
Like the other man said. The key to turning is moving
March 30, 2019, 01:13 PM
Oscar ZuluI had a '70 Chevy C-10 shortbed 4X4, 4 speed. 10.5 X 31 tires. No power anything, except under the hood. Steering wheel like a bus. Learned about thumb placement on rough terrain the hard way. I had big arms.
Oscar Zulu
March 30, 2019, 02:14 PM
SigJacketJust got back from the car show in the 57. Manual steering works fine (a rebuilt front rack and sway bar helps tremendously).
March 30, 2019, 05:56 PM
Hamden106I had Standard Steering gear in a 1956 300B Chrysler. Great on the road. But tough in parking areas.
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March 30, 2019, 06:02 PM
lymanquote:
Originally posted by egregore:
Remember manual steering? Sure, along with manual brakes and three on the tree. In a small light car manual steering is OK, in a full-sized (half-ton) pickup truck, it was a chore but manageable as long as it was rolling a little bit, in a 26-foot U-Haul truck I once had the misfortune to drive, it was an outright bitch trying to back the thing into the driveway.
For a long time (around the time of
Adam-12), LAPD ordered their cars with manual steering because the power steering of the day had poor to no "road feel." Having owned or driven power steering cars of that vintage, there is some truth to that. A 1968 Ford Custom 500 like this one …
… was the car I learned to drive on. This one had power steering (an option then), but used the same steering box ratio as a manual - four turns lock to lock. (Most p/s cars are 3 to 3¼ turns.) No road feel at all.
Nowadays, I don't think you can get
any car with manual steering; even the smallest, lightest and cheapest cars have electric power steering as standard. Mine (2009 Toyota Corolla) has it, and it is actually pretty slick. It is speed sensitive, i.e., one-finger light at a standstill and low speed, but stiffens up at higher speeds. With the improvements in power steering, I don't miss manual one bit. As long as I don't need a steering motor.
my grandparents had that model in a 4 door,
same year, same puke green, with puke green interior,
302, 3 spd auto,
car had a cold light on the dash, you did not drive off until the blue light cut off,
if you did, the car cut off as soon as you let off it at the next block,,
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March 30, 2019, 06:11 PM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by signewt:
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Hell... My first car had manual STARTING.
I had a 66 Citroen ID19 with auxillary hand crank. On several lengthy episodes when various starter parts were unavailable it came in very handy. A big a PIA as it may have been, it always fired up the engine very easily. As pleasant as that was, its soft puttputtputterputt engaged the ride height/suspension pump & by the time you were back in the cockpit all was well, you were ready to roll, and a chuckle came along despite the glitch.
My 1972 DS-21 Pallas had a crank that had multiple uses.
- Starting the engine, if necessary
- Removing a rear fender. You needed to do this in order to change a rear tire. In the photo below (stock photo, not my car), you can see the chrome nut on the fender, just above the red reflector.
- The same crank also fit the lug nuts, for changing a tire.
A very strange car, indeed, but a wonderfully plush ride.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים March 30, 2019, 07:02 PM
xanthStill have two cars with manual steering. Both '88 Fiero's.
March 30, 2019, 07:24 PM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
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Originally posted by signewt:
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Hell... My first car had manual STARTING.
I had a 66 Citroen ID19 with auxillary hand crank. On several lengthy episodes when various starter parts were unavailable it came in very handy. A big a PIA as it may have been, it always fired up the engine very easily. As pleasant as that was, its soft puttputtputterputt engaged the ride height/suspension pump & by the time you were back in the cockpit all was well, you were ready to roll, and a chuckle came along despite the glitch.
My 1972 DS-21 Pallas had a crank that had multiple uses.
- Starting the engine, if necessary
- Removing a rear fender. You needed to do this in order to change a rear tire. In the photo below (stock photo, not my car), you can see the chrome nut on the fender, just above the red reflector.
- The same crank also fit the lug nuts, for changing a tire.
A very strange car, indeed, but a wonderfully plush ride.
My mom had a Citroën that was very similar to that one, unsure of the year, but it too had a crank start. Another interesting feature was you could raise and lower the car depending on highway vs gravel roads. What a weird car it was.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis March 30, 2019, 11:11 PM
reflex/deflex 64quote:
Originally posted by triggerbks:
Did you ever drive a medium size truck through rough, or rutted ground? Need to take care with the thumbs!
Drove a semifloater fertilizer spreader truck with a nearly failed power steering pump. I still instinctively throw my hands clear of the wheel when I hit a large bump.
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March 31, 2019, 07:42 AM
egregorequote:
Originally posted by farman:
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Originally posted by flashguy:
My 1966 Mustang has non-power steering and a large steering wheel. Although I can handle it OK, it is a bear when parking or attempting to maneuver while stopped. I have been considering adding an aftermarket power steering system . . . .
flashguy
I put this on my '65. It was well worth it.
https://www.cjponyparts.com/bo...9-1965-1966/p/PSK11/
The first generation Mustang is a good example of how the manual steering was better than the power. The original setup, with an external control valve on the end of the steering box and an external cylinder on the linkage, with two hoses connecting them, was always wearing and causing steering wheel play, as well as leaking. The more times the components were "rebuilt" the worse they leaked. The third generation Corvette also used external linkage power steering. That kit in the link has the assist integral to the box and has much less potential for leaks. This kit would also not need extensive modification or alteration of factory integrity to install, unlike a rack & pinion.
March 31, 2019, 08:27 AM
GRIZZLYBEARI learned to drive at 13 or 14 in a 1947 all steel Crosley station wagon with manual everything. No seat belts or electric turn signals.
I up graded to a 1949 Chevrolet Deluxe three on the tree, drum brakes, manual steering, no selt belts or harness, and four turn signal stick you arm and hand out the window.
March 31, 2019, 08:38 AM
mrvmaxquote:
Originally posted by VBVAGUY:
I had a 1991 Honda CRX Si and 1992 Mazda Miata, both had manual steering. God bless
I test drive a CRX with larger tires a few years back. That thing was a beast to steer when it wasn’t moving.
March 31, 2019, 08:46 AM
signewtquote:
A very strange car, indeed, but a wonderfully plush ride.
remains to this day the most comfortable 'passengers car' I've ever owned....
Poorly supported dealer network, parts hard to get (1972 era). I relied on a guy I met, a townie resident without space for his herd, had SEVEN various parts cars parked around the block around his house in an old neighborhood in PDX.
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March 31, 2019, 10:34 AM
V-Tailquote:
Originally posted by Skins2881:
Another interesting feature was you could raise and lower the car depending on highway vs gravel roads. What a weird car it was.
Part of the adjustable height system, was the ability of the car to jack itself up via the hydraulic system, if you had to change a tire.
Oh yeah, the spare tire was under the sloped "nose" of the hood, in front of the radiator.
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים March 31, 2019, 12:39 PM
LunaseeI recall manual steering being referred to as "Power steering by Armstrong".
March 31, 2019, 01:04 PM
cparktdquote:
Originally posted by Lunasee:
I recall manual steering being referred to as "Power steering by Armstrong".
Ha Ha. yea, went with the 2-55 AC.
Endeavor to persevere. March 31, 2019, 11:55 PM
Major DundeeMy first car was a 1963 Plymouth Valiant. Three on the tree, slant six, and power nothing. But the radio worked
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April 01, 2019, 07:48 AM
M-11Took my driver's test in a '67 Chevy 9-passenger wagon with three in the tree and no power anything. Took two tries/trips to get the parallel parking. That first time was a very disappointing day.
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Southflorida-lawJoys of driving trucks with manual steering and stick shift.
Even more fun, 4 wheel drum brakes, not power assisted. Go through water and have 2 blocks of no brakes. That was my 73 Ford Bronco.
April 01, 2019, 09:50 AM
tleddyModel “T” Ford
My learn to drive car in W. Texas 1950’s
Chevy P/U 1970’s
All of my race cars
No quarter
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