This was my first thought!

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Originally posted by Kevmo:
FYI - Dog is good too!

Update - Just spoke to shop...initial estimate was very low but adjuster told shop to start tearing down so he could see underneath.

Looking at:
Front and rear cross members
complete LR suspension
gas tank
sub frame damage
floor pan damage
body damage on front bumper, fender and rocker
2 new alloy wheels and tires

And this is all assuming that the drive train is not screwed up (4wd).

Body shop said it is borderline but at this point I think son is better off if it just goes away.

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Originally posted by Kevmo:
Update - Just spoke to shop...initial estimate was very low but adjuster told shop to start tearing down so he could see underneath.

Looking at:
Front and rear cross members
complete LR suspension
gas tank
sub frame damage
floor pan damage
body damage on front bumper, fender and rocker
2 new alloy wheels and tires

And this is all assuming that the drive train is not screwed up (4wd).

Body shop said it is borderline but at this point I think son is better off if it just goes away.

Even if they rebuild it, it will never be the same again.

I was in an accident back in 2005, a Mazda3 that I'd had for 3 WEEKS.

They kept doing supplemental after supplemental at the body shop such that State Farm actually paid MORE to repair it than to just write me a check for another new one. State Farm would not listen to me when I suggested they total the car and cut their losses after about supplemental #3. There were like 6 of them.

The day I got it back, I drove it right to a dealer and traded it in.

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Body shop said it is borderline but at this point I think son is better off if it just goes away.

Sounds like you are on the way to that. After the next layer peels back I bet that's where you land. Sounds like you got a decent adjuster on the job.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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Body shop said it is borderline but at this point I think son is better off if it just goes away.

Sounds like you are on the way to that. After the next layer peels back I bet that's where you land. Sounds like you got a decent adjuster on the job.

Adjuster does sound decent and I am hoping it swings that way.

When I was stationed at Ft. Monmouth, N.J., I drove across I80, often at night, more times than I can count. Those of you familiar with it, as it winds through Pennsylvania, know parts of it are not something you want to go driving off of. It can be a loooong way down.

One evening, finding it impossible to keep my eyes open, no matter what I did, I pulled over into the very next rest stop, bundled-up some spare clothes in the space between seat and window, and crashed in a good way

Late to the thread...

Glad to hear both your son and the dog are OK. He is very lucky. After duck hunting a very good friend was driving home and his son and uncle were driving separately behind them.

My friend Chris, looked in his rearview mirror, and saw his sons truck slowly leave the road, go in the embankment, and then crash.

He turned around and found his sons drivers side bent around a telephone pole

He could not get to his now deceased 17 year old son.

Count your blessing.

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Front and rear cross members
complete LR suspension
gas tank
sub frame damage
floor pan damage

On a unit-body car, crossmembers are also known as subframes, sometimes cradles. But that's not the important part. The important part is that the attachment points for the x-members are on a reinforced section of the floor pan. Sometimes these attachment points can be bent, but the damage is not visible to the naked eye. Putting it all together, going to the alignment rack and finding the alignment can't be brought into specs is a lousy way of finding this out. As the guy who has to deal with the alignment part, I see this quite often.

I went to shop on Saturday to gather son's belongings (note to self - talk to the boy about car cleanliness).

With it up in the air and wheels/parts removed it is easy to see what a mess it is. Not surprised that adjusted just called and told me its going to scrap yard.

Glad they are not trying to fix it. Sub-frame damage is just about never 100% again outside a complete restoration.

I travel with a flat zipped pouch behind the seat, a gift from my first mortgage company two decades ago. It unzips into a huge nylon duffle. If I'm in an accident, emptying the cab's contents into the duffle is a definite priority. Getting three or four key tool bags out of the box is #2.