My mother’s family came from the Tennessee hills. Her great-great grandmother was a full-blooded Cherokee Indian with a quaint name. That was the story we’d always heard but when a cousin did a full genealogical work up, it turned out she was actually of Irish and Scottish descent with a quaint name of the period. Fortunately, no one in the family ever tried to benefit from this, to gain scholarships or teaching positions or whatnot, unlike some on the list.

One of my great grandmothers was 1/2 Cherokee.

But it's irrelevantly small by the time it hits me (1/32nd).

And besides, I'm an unmistakable honkey, color wise.

It's hilarious to see the politicians and academics get caught up in it.

Good, about time these hucksters and virtue chasers are exposed. I always laughed and shook my head whenever somebody JUST HAD to tell everyone their Native American heritage. From the large nosed guys wearing their turquoise jewelry to the women who grew their hair long, dyed it and used straightener in it. Fuck'em frauds.

Pretendian

I thought this blip from the article is relevant:

Rhiana Yazzie, a Native-American playwright, said she had mixed feelings about the list.

“Pretendians are a major problem yet I’m disturbed that there’s a list like this that feels arbitrary. I’m not sure who is investigating and what the consequences are,” she said.



See also: Who is watching the watchers?

My stepbrother Matt is 50% Osage, he was adopted at birth by my stepmother who my Dad married when I was 6, so he’s really a brother to me.

My stepmother knew who the birth father and mother were and always told him about his heritage; mother was full Osage from Oklahoma and the father was British, not sure if he was a servicemember or what.

I don’t think he ever used his status as 50% Native American to get any special preference in getting into college or for hiring into any jobs.

Lots of people claiming Cherokee lineage. Must have been a huge and widely dispersed tribe. Never hear anyone claiming Pueblo/Tewa lineage. My wife’s family claim Cherokee blood. DNA tests showed no Cherokee. Yeah it may have been washed out but everyone who did the tests show no sign. My wife’s generation and those younger never put a lot of faith in the claim. It seemed the older generations did. Actually sitting down with the older family members and tracing the lineage show no Cherokee. Why it came up is a mystery.

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Lots of people claiming Cherokee lineage.

The Cherokee tribe is one of the largest tribe still in existence. And they are spread out . The US herded them up from the Appalachian mountains of NC, TN, KY, GA, VA and moved them to Oklahoma. Some stayed behind and eventually became the Eastern Cherokee tribe. They have a reservation in western NC, Cherokee…

I remember visiting when I was a kid and my dad had took us to the town…later when we moved to NC I went to visit with other teens and we went onto the reservation and its much different than the public persona. Now they have casinos and what not, but I’m sure some still live in poverty.

But the weirded part of many peoples claim is that they are proud of the linage…at the time of the 1800s Indians were considered scum of the earth-even below slaves. Fast forward and mix-race couples are no big deal, but back then being a mix blooded kid would have been horrible to grow up in.

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https://docs.google.com/spread...hcHT2BH44/edit#gid=0
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This is the link to the list. Didn't see Chuck Norris on the list.

Looks like one needs to request access to view the list ??? God Bless

I do not claim to be a descendant of the antiquarian indigenous peoples inhabiting North America, but by God I was born in the State of Wyoming, part of the United States of America, and five generations before me were also born in North America.

So I am a NATIVE AMERICAN, and if you don't like that you can lump it.

Disagree?

All we are arguing over is when your ancestors reached this continent as compared to mine. And given the scale of time, that difference amounts to nothing.

Cut it out. Leave the obtuse bullshit for the leftists.

I get why some politicians claim to be Indians - they think it will score them some political points.

But why do so many "regular" people like to claim Indian ancestry? There seems to be some romance in this that is beyond all reason.

Many have nothing other than some unspecific family lore that may not even hold up to scrutiny. Or, if it does, it turns out they are like Warren, and are 1/264 Indian, or some such thing.

There probably as many Southerners that have a black person in their family history as an Indian, but no one is falling all over themselves to claim that.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
I get why some politicians claim to be Indians - they think it will score them some political points.

But why do so many "regular" people like to claim Indian ancestry? There seems to be some romance in this that is beyond all reason.

Many have nothing other than some unspecific family lore that may not even hold up to scrutiny. Or, if it does, it turns out they are like Warren, and are 1/264 Indian, or some such thing.

There probably as many Southerners that have a black person in their family history as an Indian, but no one is falling all over themselves to claim that.

Watch a Western - Native Americans are incredibly civilized, one-with-nature, mature individuals that anybody would love. Don't read any of the diaries that were written at the time, though!

And, Warren justified her lying claims with a DNA result that showed she was 1/1064 Native American.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
There probably as many Southerners that have a black person in their family history as an Indian, but no one is falling all over themselves to claim that.

Perhaps you really are that obtuse. If so, you have my sympathy.

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Originally posted by synthplayer:

Watch a Western - Native Americans are incredibly civilized, one-with-nature, mature individuals that anybody would love. Don't read any of the diaries that were written at the time, though!

I cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not. Natives were not a monolithic society in the Americas. Many of them kept slaves. Many of them over polluted their home-sites and had to move on to cleaner pastures; see Mesa Verde.

On the other hand, look at native reservations and their valueless subsistence there is a perfect example of why I don’t want cradle to grave government help.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
There probably as many Southerners that have a black person in their family history as an Indian, but no one is falling all over themselves to claim that.

Perhaps you really are that obtuse. If so, you have my sympathy.

Touch a nerve? Even if not, you are making my point.

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why do so many "regular" people like to claim Indian ancestry

To some extent, romance, or, repeated family lore, without absolute proof from stories handed down from great great grand parents, For all we know some of which may be true, but as reported the pct of your dna that shows up may decrease with each new family member generation.

To some extent it's perpetuated by the governments demand to make reparations through providing instant pathways to college entrance, funding, government business grants, all kinds of financial rewards for being "a pct of something" be it native american, black, female, bisexual, asexual, you want in or want that government contract/backed loan, and the incentive to embellish heritage exists.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by jhe888:
There probably as many Southerners that have a black person in their family history as an Indian, but no one is falling all over themselves to claim that.

Perhaps you really are that obtuse. If so, you have my sympathy.

Touch a nerve? Even if not, you are making my point.

You seem to really dislike it here.


And/or …


Perhaps you have a congenital condition a.k.a. some sort of psychosis/personality disorder that causes you to post like an asshole, on a regular basis.

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Originally posted by jhe888:
I get why some politicians claim to be Indians - they think it will score them some political points.

But why do so many "regular" people like to claim Indian ancestry? There seems to be some romance in this that is beyond all reason.

Many have nothing other than some unspecific family lore that may not even hold up to scrutiny. Or, if it does, it turns out they are like Warren, and are 1/264 Indian, or some such thing.

There probably as many Southerners that have a black person in their family history as an Indian, but no one is falling all over themselves to claim that.

Once society has applied moral sympathy and admirable character to a subset while superimposing guilt for their persecution to another subset, you get the desire to associate with the heroic persecuted……especially when it is profitable to do so. Let’s not forget a hefty helping of ignorance of the truth of history.

^^^^^^^^^
Similar to what Freud termed reaction formation?

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Originally posted by jhe888:
But why do so many "regular" people like to claim Indian ancestry? There seems to be some romance in this that is beyond all reason.

One of the loudest narratives pushed by the so-called progressives is that society should be divided into two groups: victims and oppressors. People who abide that thinking certainly don't want to be oppressors, so they look for any way they can to identify with a "victim" group which then allows them occupy the moral high ground. IMHO, it's just another consequence of identity politics.