COVRT18™ 2.0 Backpack 32L
Although it offers the versatility of a tactical pack, the COVRT18™ 2.0 is the next iteration in a serious of backpacks designed not to call a lot of attention to itself...
you’ve requested a more discreet appearance and made the necessary improvements...
https://www.511tactical.com/covrt18-2-sp22.html

Covert is the new tacticool!

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a casino is on the list of prohibited places to carry.

I'll admit that I haven't gone back to read up on this prior to posting, but I always thought that those rules only applied to the actual casino floor, and not the hotels/restaurants/whatever attached.

Wynn’s policy is here:

https://www.visitwynn.com/tc/index.cfm?term_id=686591

Under guest standards:

“ Possession of a weapon except with Wynn Resort’s prior knowledge and consent.”

As in much of life act right and you’ll have many less problems than when acting the fool.

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Originally posted by h2oys:
Not sure about NV, but here in MO, a casino is on the list of prohibited places to carry.

Nothing i found indicated it was expressly prohibited. I double checked before we arrived in case it had changed from the last time I was there.

NRS 202.3673 Permittee authorized to carry concealed firearm while on premises of public building; exceptions; penalty.
1. Except as otherwise provided in subsections 2 and 3, a permittee may carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of any public building.
2. A permittee shall not carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of a public building that is located on the property of a public airport.
3. A permittee shall not carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of:
(a) A public building that is located on the property of a public school or a child care facility or the property of the Nevada System of Higher Education, unless the permittee has obtained written permission to carry a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building pursuant to subparagraph (3) of paragraph (a) of subsection 3 of NRS 202.265.
(b) A public building that has a metal detector at each public entrance or a sign posted at each public entrance indicating that no firearms are allowed in the building, unless the permittee is not prohibited from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building pursuant to subsection 4.
4. The provisions of paragraph (b) of subsection 3 do not prohibit:
(a) A permittee who is a judge from carrying a concealed firearm in the courthouse or courtroom in which the judge presides or from authorizing a permittee to carry a concealed firearm while in the courtroom of the judge and while traveling to and from the courtroom of the judge.
(b) A permittee who is a prosecuting attorney of an agency or political subdivision of the United States or of this State from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of a public building.
(c) A permittee who is employed in the public building from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building.
(d) A permittee from carrying a concealed firearm while he or she is on the premises of the public building if the permittee has received written permission from the person in control of the public building to carry a concealed firearm while the permittee is on the premises of the public building.
5. A person who violates subsection 2 or 3 is guilty of a misdemeanor.
6. As used in this section:
(a) "Child care facility" has the meaning ascribed to it in paragraph (a) of subsection 5 of NRS 202.265.
(b) "Public building" means any building or office space occupied by:
(1) Any component of the Nevada System of Higher Education and used for any purpose related to the System; or
(2) The Federal Government, the State of Nevada or any county, city, school district or other political subdivision of the State of Nevada and used for any public purpose. If only part of the building is occupied by an entity described in this subsection, the term means only that portion of the building which is so occupied.

A lot of hotels here in Vegas started posting a NO FIREARM signs on their entry doors since that incident. Not all, but some. I think it is just a Casino Policy, and not in the NRS. The same goes for malls. Most hotels will still let you stay in their facility as long as you inform them ahead of time. A friend of mine comes to Vegas once a year with his friend from Cali to shoot here in Vegas. They bring a lot of firearms in rifle cases. They just tell hotel security that they are bringing in firearms. Hotel staff even let them use their rolling cart to wheel in their cases. It all depend on the hotel policy. I ignore those NO FIREARM signs since I carry conceal. The ONLY exception from the obvious (court houses, police stations, schools, etc.) I DO NOT carry (even concealed) in casinos or hotels with a "Child Care Center" inside their premises. That is noted on the NRS that OP posted. There are few hotels/casinos that have Child Care Center.

During my CCW class, we were informed that the casino security can ask you to leave the premises if they find out you are carrying and did not inform them. You cannot be charged or arrested for carrying. But if you refuse to leave the property, you can be arrested and charged with Trespassing.

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Originally posted by Copefree:
But of course they didn’t think to check the Vegas shooter’s luggage when he snuck 25 rifles into the Mandalay Bay hotel.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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a casino is on the list of prohibited places to carry.

I'll admit that I haven't gone back to read up on this prior to posting, but I always thought that those rules only applied to the actual casino floor, and not the hotels/restaurants/whatever attached.

This was the cheat sheet I made to keep in my wallet when CCW first passed in MO:

Another pack option:
Maxpedition Prepared Citizen Classic V2.0
Comes in two sizes and is very low key. Can carry a ballistic panel too. They are on closeout sale right now.

While the guard was searching your bag someone walked past carrying a Hello Kitty backpack stuffed with an high velocity SBR with a shoulder thing that goes up and 25 high capacity magazine clips.

I like my Rush 24 but it's been relegated to a truck bag for a while now. I use a Maxpedition Entity series bag for a daily carry shit around bag. Still a decent functional bag but it's pretty nondescript and charcoal gray in color. A lot of "gray man" bags are in colors I don't really want to carry around.

I try to be grey man and don't have any interest in being tacticool. But I like buying quality backpacks made in USA (ie - LBT, etc). When on sale, these are much better choices in my mind than cheap quality, same price made in prc crap.

Watching for molle is stupid. What's next? Cargo pants? Certain brands of clothing? Boots? Caps w/ certain logos? Are they going to force LEO or other legit carry to reveal themselves when in plain clothes?

Sigh....

In Texas a few years ago, the legislature and Gov. Abbott passed a bill (SB 20) prohibiting hotels from banning firearms and ammunition that guests may bring and store in the hotel. The premise is that a hotel room is a domicile for the guest, and they should have the right to have a gun(s) in their temporary home.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
COVRT18™ 2.0 Backpack 32L
Although it offers the versatility of a tactical pack, the COVRT18™ 2.0 is the next iteration in a serious of backpacks designed not to call a lot of attention to itself...
you’ve requested a more discreet appearance and made the necessary improvements...
https://www.511tactical.com/covrt18-2-sp22.html

Covert is the new tacticool!

Jeeze, man - how will everyone know I am high speed, low drag?

In the good old days of the Vegas SOF Conventions EVERYONE had some fun stuff with them on check in. This was my old travel case:


After these pix were taken I added a rainbow Apple logo sticker to the front of the case. No problemo.

A few years later I took the sticker off as I figured someone might just want to steal a MAC laptop and get a gun instead.

Rules change from time to time. There was a shooting on the casino floor some years back and things tightened up. They loosened again later. The adjoining hotels check from time to time when folks are wearing camo and carrying long gun cases. The casinos want your money and may ask you to check and go through your bags. MS is a consitutional carry state and gun owners are the majority of the population. California is NOT moving here and those that do are military personnel.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
And so that brings me to this. I will no longer be using the Rush 24 pack, or any "tactical" backpack, for travel any longer. Which is a shame, because I've been using this bag for years flying back and forth to work and everywhere else, and I love it. But damn did I hate that feeling of being profiled. I of course always knew that the 5.11 packs are not the most inconspicuous pieces of luggage one can travel with, but I guess I just never thought I'd actually get harassed like that for doing nothing more than standing there in jeans and a plain gray zip up hoodie wearing a military style pack with an American flag on it. If I had my wife and kids with me at the time, it's possible he wouldn't have searched me, but nevertheless, I'm retiring the Rush 24. In its place will be the very boring looking Aer Travel Pack 3 which I just ordered today. Hopefully it will serve me as well as the 5.11 pack did for many years.

As others have pointed-out, part of the Grayman bit is...presenting yourself as non-tactical or, look at me. The Euros are pretty good at this; camo patterns and wearing old surplus apparel is frowned upon socially. Much of it is knowing where you're going and who's around. Going to the range, hunt or, local use, I'll take whatever I have. Traveling, I try to keep it on the down-low, just don't need the attention from some petty criminal or, over-zealous security. I can only imagine how LV hotels reviewed their profiling procedures during this year's SHOT show?

Aer makes really nice packs. I've been using their City Pack Pro X-pac, the fabric is my favorite and there's just enough features. I nearly purchased a Go Ruck GR1 but, the bottom half of MOLLE was a deal breaker.

Thanks for the reminder. I try to stay as grey man as I can. Will need to tone down the tactical backpacks.

I’ve never understood the desire to wear clothing or use gear that looks “tactical” in nature (not saying the OP operates that way).

It’s like open carry. Why would you carry in such a manner that everyone knows you have a handgun? If you’re a bad guy, guess who is target number one? Guess who LEO or security are watching as well? To me, that defeats the purpose of carrying which is to protect you and your family not become the first target.

The same goes for clothing and hats with 2A or firearm logos and sayings. They may be comfortable to wear hunting or at the range, but I always have a change of clothing or a different hat to wear while traveling so as to avoid notice.

As for my bags, I’ve moved to standard backpacks that are sold to students for school. Everyone has them and they have lots of non-tactical looking pockets that are very useful. As for clothes, I’ve found that Columbia, Eddie Bauer, Izod, and golf clothing manufacturers make very comfortable pants, shirts, jackets, etc. that golfers, hikers and campers use that are durable and useful while not screaming tactical to everyone.

Who’s going to attract attention in these two pictures? Yet, both are wearing comfortable clothing that allows you to easily access a handgun. Bags should be chosen the same way IMO.



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I’d like to see that hotel policy enforced during SHOT. Everyone in the city looks like they just HALOed in from DevGru.

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Originally posted by ruger357:
I’d like to see that hotel policy enforced during SHOT. Everyone in the city looks like they just HALOed in from DevGru.

There's a LOT of Gravy SEALs walking around

Gregory, Osprey, and Mystery Ranch all make superb daypacks and other backpacks that look outdoors-y rather than tactical. I prefer looking like a granola eating hiker type than the high speed operator I feel I am on the inside.

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Originally posted by sjp:
I travel a lot for work, we make it policy to check in and then after that we bring our bags in, which are all tactical type bags. I've stayed in NYC among other liberal places and had no issues, yet. It does help that I am military and have the authority to tell them to fuck off your not looking in our bags but thats because we carry crypto gear most times and have someone sit on it 24/7 while deployed.

We've had some fun conversations with cops that wanted to inspect our vehicles on the side of the road...

This reminded of the time about 20 years ago where I built a home for an undercover DEA agent. He drove a high end sports car that he said was compounded from a previous bust in another state. He had to go up to the mothership in DC and his boss asked him to bring back 10,000 rounds of ammo for the guys in his office. For what ever reason he decided to take the Blue Ridge Parkway down to Roanoke and as luck would have it he had to take a leak about 10 pm. He pulled into one of those lookout parking areas and proceeded to walk to the edge of the woods to do his business… he was just about finished when he got lit up by a Park Ranger!
Now keep in mind that he had long hair and a scruffy beard along with a fancy car. The Ranger asked for his ID and he gave him his DL (which was fake). When the Ranger ran his ID he came out of his patrol car with his sidearm drawn and demanded he get up against the car. He then demanded that he open the trunk at which time my client said that he can explain…when he opened the trunk and saw all the ammo he immediately called for backup and made my client lay face down until his back up arrived which was almost 30 minutes! He was finally allowed to get his ID which was hidden in the car and eventually allowed to go…