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Remember Uncle Ben's Rest Home (Fort Benjamin Harrison) probably have problems calling it Uncle Ben's now if it still existed. | |||
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הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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I served at Ft. Benning and Ft. Bragg and that's what I will always call them. | |||
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US Army forts should be named after US Army Soldiers or Officers. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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Braxton Bragg was a West Point grad who served in the US Army for 20 years prior to the Civil War, including distinguished service in combat during the Mexican War. | |||
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Hal Moore is probably rolling over in his Fort Benning Post Cemetery grave over all this woke bullshit. So what now? I have to return my Airborne and Ranger School graduation certificates, under penalty of woke law, to get them changed? Marriage licenses, birth certificates and death certificates, issued/cited at Fort Benning, are now invalid? _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
The Fort Lee one really gets me the most. Yes, Robert E Lee did fight against the United States but he WAS a West Point grad and a US Army soldier before all that, and wasn’t he fully re-established as a US Citizen with all rights and honors associated with that? The Soviets would have used the term “rehabilitated” I believe? | |||
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The Ice Cream Man |
I do think Bragg should be named for Francis Marion or Rodgers. | |||
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More light than heat |
So was nearly every Confederate general. If you’re going to change any of them, it seems like you would start with Ft. Lee. _________________________ "Age does not bring wisdom. Often it merely changes simple stupidity into arrogant conceit. It's only advantage, so far as I have been able to see, is that it spans change. A young person sees the world as a still picture, immutable. An old person has had his nose rubbed in changes and more changes and still more changes so many times that that he knows it is a moving picture, forever changing. He may not like it--probably doesn't; I don't--but he knows it's so, and knowing is the first step in coping with it." Robert Heinlein | |||
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Now Serving 7.62 |
Complete and utter bullshit! Ridiculous woke fuckery. Sorry Para, these were the kindest words I could muster. | |||
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I have no problem with the renaming of the Army's Forts, hero's need to be recognized and Hal Moore is certainly one that is deserving. The Civil War was long ago, our Army has built upon it's history many times over since then HOWEVER, had these name changes happened say, in the 90's, no big deal. Today, these changes are done in an effort to eliminate a part of US history, not in an effort to honor our heroes. Where's Fort Patton? Where's Fort Eisenhower? Where's Fort Ridgeway? | |||
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I’m sure it won’t be long before we get “Fort mulvaney”, even though he never served. | |||
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Charmingly unsophisticated |
I don't get where they came up with "Liberty". I get Cavazos and Moore, and I don't know any of the other new ones....but Liberty?!?! Whose bright idea was that? _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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You put this better than I could have. We have a limited number of forts, and unlike ships they don’t tend to be decommissioned and new ones built so naming is limited. Sadly, there is no shortage of heroes, so I’d be in favor of names changing every 40/50 years to honor those that fell. For example, we need a Fort Gordon and a Fort Shughart, or a Fort Chapman and Fort Celiz. However, that’s not the underlying rationale for what is being done here. | |||
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Same old woke bull shit as this from a few years ago. And the the .gov thinks it is puzzling why recruitment goals can not be met. Navy launches ship named for gay rights leader Harvey Milk https://www.militarytimes.com/...-leader-harvey-milk/ A Navy ship named for slain gay rights leader Harvey Milk, who served four years in the Navy before being forced out, was christened and launched in San Diego Bay on Saturday. The replenishment oiler USNS Harvey Milk slid down the shipyard ways after a bottle of champagne was smashed on the bow by former Navy officer Paula M. Neira, clinical program director for the John Hopkins Center for Transgender Health. Milk’s nephew, Stuart Milk, and Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro watched the traditional ceremony. “The secretary of the Navy needed to be here today, not just to amend the wrongs of the past, but to give inspiration to all of our LGBTQ community leaders who served in the Navy, in uniform today and in the civilian workforce as well too, and to tell them that we’re committed to them in the future,” Del Toro said. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Charmingly unsophisticated |
Oddly enough, there already is a Fort Gordon (but obviously not named for Gary Gordon) and it is supposed to be renamed Fort Eisenhower. _______________________________ The artist formerly known as AllenInWV | |||
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It will always be Fort Benning for me. Jump school and Pathfinder school in 1969, then my first tour in Vietnam. Returned to Benning as an instructor, then back to Vietnam again. What little bits of Fort Benning I didn't see during training exercises I probably spent time hunting deer and quail. Bought our first house nearby, wife and son stayed there when I went back to Vietnam. Rewrite the history, change the name all you want. After 54 years I doubt I will ever be able to change my memory. Retired holster maker. Retired police chief. Formerly Sergeant, US Army Airborne Infantry, Pathfinders | |||
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^ Exactly. I'm just sick about this. Can't say a damn thing about it either. Most VA posts getting woke renamed this year... I won't go into detail, but I given up a LOT (Damn near everything) for the Army and Virginia and it's a real cheap, disrespectful punch in the face to use us as woke banner waivers. These people have no freaking ideal what it means to serve; to sacrifice. Very sad we allowed this to happen. | |||
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What is the point of a namesake? If not to remember the name? | |||
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Camp Crowder, in Neosho, MO is one. Sort of. You might recognize it better as Camp Swampy, from the Beetle Bailey comics. It's where cartoonist Mort Walker did his basic training for WWII. | |||
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