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I wholeheartedly agree with this and Power's previous post. I have a Honda HRT216 and just got gifted a Toro with a B/S motor. I'm rebuilding the Toro and all the oil research for it echo everything Power has posted. Quality brand 30W are hard to find for me too beside the overpriced Honda and B/S label at Home Depot and the cheap off brand at Wallie's World. Castro is excellent. Shell Rotella is good...even better than the Honda and B/S label mower specific oils. I went with Rotella which is 20% cheaper than the Castro Magnatec. I don't think I run mine as hard like a commercial lawn equipment so don't need to waste $$$. I just plan on changing it once a season during my winterizing process. Either mower only uses .5qt max. The gallon will last me a few seasons. If I run my equipment commercially, I would go to synthetic. | |||
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Ive used Rotella synthetic in my motorcycles, and my atv and have been very happy with the performance and smoother shifts, etc. It would work fantastic in a mower. I use Royal Purple in my chainsaws, pole saw, blower mix, and also in my self propelled mower. Runs very well. | |||
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when I was much younger, it was common knowledge (ha!!) that if you used one brand of oil, you best stick with it, never change brands, supposedly stuff would come loose, sludge move around, etc etc, blow you motor up, blah blah blah and never use Quaker State, it had sand in it,, seriously, heard that from many a mechanic having said that my first car was a vega, never changed the oil in it, only changed a filter, since it burned it up at about 2 quarts or more a tank of gas, other than additives, what is the difference between a cheap off brand named 30 weight and a 'premium brand"?? likely nothing, since like Gas, it all comes thru the same refineries, just sold off as a commodity and packaged, FWIW, the shop I take my Tundra , currently uses Pennzoil, (oil, not synth) they will likely do the changes on the Civic I drive now (factory says 0w-20 oil, or synthetic) when I had my Cooper, it used whatever BMW/Cooper put in it during service,, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Partially correct, but it's erroneous to say different additives but no difference. In both motor oils and gasoline from brand to brand the additives are definitely different and additization rate is different which corresponds to performance differences. Gasoline leaving the refinery is fungible, but at the distribution terminals loading rack (i.e. where they load the tanker trucks) is where the difference comes in. A loading rack will have the supermajors', majors', and generic additives (I've seen as many as 6 additive tanks at a loading rack meaning 5 proprietary additives and one generic additive). You can read more about Top Tier gasoline and diesel here, and the deposit control performance difference between ordinary and Top Tier. Lube oil base stocks also leave the refinery the same, but at the lube plant is where the difference comes in. The assembly line is pretty neat to see in person and I've toured two. Outside, there are tall, skinny lube oil tanks (several weights of dino oil and several weights of synthetic oil) and inside there is an additive area with 55 gallon drums. When they switch oils (they have several grades of their own as well as making oils for the companies that don't have their own lube oil plant), it's a complete shutdown of the factory. They have to swap out all of the bottles, swap out all of the boxes the bottles go in, and swap out the additives (it's more than one). Bob is the Oil Guy is great place to go see the differences in performance in the identical ASTM test. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Neither Penzoil nor Quakerstate have sand in the oil, but a spectrometric oil analysis may turn up higher silica. Both tend to have higher ash concentrations than other brands, but it shouldn't be enough concern to turn away. It's more important that you do regular oil changes than you worry about the brand. | |||
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| Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
I've used Rotella for years and it is great. The gas engine auto oils took out the zinc and other stuff years ago due to the catalytic converters but it works better than the replacements. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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If Toro is OK with oil with a classification as old as SF, then practically anything will do. Unless perhaps if you found some SA in grandad’s garage. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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| The Constable |
Talk about overthinking a simple issue. Thought I was on an HD site for a second. Thousands of threads on OIL. | |||
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most of the SAE 30s had a CSt@100*c of around 10.0, just like most of the 10w30s. difference is that with the SAE 30 the CSt@40*c is typically between 80-100. The 10w30s @40 are usually between 60-70, so at low temp they flow better. I like others think the rotella would work fine, but you could also run some valvoline vr1. | |||
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Absolutely correct. The brand won't matter. The oil type won't matter, so long as it's in the correct range. Multi-weight won't hurt. Done. | |||
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If you pick up in store there is no shipping charge at all. You can order as few or many as you like. | |||
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Just noticed Lowe's in NC has this  | |||
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| Hop head |
if you are referring to my post, I was quoting some mechanics from about 1980, I should have used the sarcasm smiley! https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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| Hop head |
I used to run a few stores that had fuel centers, we would get the commodity gas, no additives, for sale, depending on contract, we had Shell or Amoco for a bit, then went to Kinder Morgan who was the supplier when I left the business, I have a friend that works at the local Kinder Morgan distribution point/rack or whatever they call it, he was telling me the same that you typed, about the additives that go in different brands, he likes his job, other than the rotating shifts, says it can be really busy when getting deliveries via a pipeline, to mind numbingly boring if it is a slow time, https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Amsoil. Use it in everything including my mowing/lawn equipment. What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone | |||
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