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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:

I have been in FBI training, for active shooters and similar. These agents are again, focused on what is best for a community, for eliminating risks, for fighting crime.

Did that training touch on how to suppress a mass shooter's manifesto or other motives that don't fit the woketarian narrative? Asking for a friend.

“I am/was just following orders”.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
“I am/was just following orders”.

We're just rank-and-file swarming Roger Stone's house and raiding Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago, focusing on "eliminating risks" to our DNC masters.

Cousins husband is a DEA agent. Nobody ever said anything but small talk around those family events it was odd. The kids first birthday was a big party. Literally looked like an episode of breaking bad.

Here an FBI story for you. It is one of condescending arrogance:
My younger brother was a very active thief and was employed by a construction company owner to steal a Caterpillar D9 bulldozer and the semi rig that hauls it. My brother then took the entire rig across a state line to sell it. Thus giving the Feds jurisdiction.
Sometime after this event, I got a knock at the door. Two suits were on the porch and they flashed big gold FBI shields in my face. They told me about the D9 and asked me to go with them to my parents home to interview my brother. While it was unspoken, it was pretty clear they thought I was either in on the theft or at least trying to shield my brother from being prosecuted. I informed them that my brother was an experienced criminal and would not cooperate with them in any way. One of them said "well, he has only dealt with local law enforcement and we are Federal". Right! On arrival at my folks, I found my brother watching cartoons. I informed him the FBI wanted to talk to him. He said "tell them to fuck off"! I said he should deliver that message to them personally. When he met with them, he asked if he was under arrest. When they said no, he said "then you guys can fuck off"! The car ride back to my house was done in silence. My brother was never charged for the D9 theft and the dude he did the theft for was later shot and killed. I think that killed the FBI investigation, too.

^^^ That's great. But, I'm confused as to why you even cooperated with them. You weren't charged with anything, right? Could have told these assholes to go over there themselves and do their own dirty work.

My Department had written policy and procedures that required members to assist other agencies if they asked for help. So I was kinda bound by that.
And I wanted to tag along just to see what would happen!

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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
I have two agent personal friends. If they are bad, they are very good at pretending to be good. I trust them, I admire them, and I know they are seeking what is best for our nation.

I have been in FBI training, for active shooters and similar. These agents are again, focused on what is best for a community, for eliminating risks, for fighting crime.

I can't believe all agents are bad. I've had too many good experiences with them.

I used to work around two agents fairly regularly. Both are good cops. Don’t see them much these days because I’m no longer carrying many fed cases.

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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
I have two agent personal friends. If they are bad, they are very good at pretending to be good. I trust them, I admire them, and I know they are seeking what is best for our nation.

I have been in FBI training, for active shooters and similar. These agents are again, focused on what is best for a community, for eliminating risks, for fighting crime.

I can't believe all agents are bad. I've had too many good experiences with them.

While I am sure there are some good individuals in the organization, the organization itself is rotten to the core. Everyone should be fired and the building should be leveled.

The good agents can go work for the U.S. Marshalls.

Friend of mine sent this to me this morning: Feds Asked Banks to Comb Customer Data for 'MAGA,' 'Trump' Terms
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The federal government asked financial institutions to rummage through customer data if terms such as "MAGA" or "Trump" were used in transactions, the House Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government revealed Wednesday, citing documents it obtained.
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"Documents obtained by the Committee and Select Subcommittee also show that FBI personnel, including Mr. Sullivan, made contact with and provided BoA with specific search query terms, indicating that it was 'interested in all financial relationships' of BoA customers transacting in Washington D.C., and customers who had made 'ANY historical purchase' of a firearm, or who had purchased a hotel, Airbnb, or airline travel within a given date range."

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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:
I can't believe all agents are bad. I've had too many good experiences with them.

Perhaps not, but, by continuing to employ their talents for a federal law enforcement agency that's blatantly being weaponized to turn our Republic into an authoritarian police state they are aiding the process, IMO. Thus they get no free pass from me.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
<<snip>> by continuing to employ their talents for a federal law enforcement agency that's blatantly being weaponized to turn our Republic into an authoritarian police state they are aiding the process, IMO. Thus they get no free pass from me.

This sums it up 100% for me; couldn't have said it better!

US judge releases last of Newburgh Four group

U.S. District Judge Colleen McMahon said that the four men allegedly plotting to attack Jewish buildings and shoot down National Guard planes were victims of a plot manufactured by the FBI.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/383930

U.S. District Judge Colleen McMahon on Friday granted James Cromitie, 58, compassionate release from prison, six months after the other three members of the ‘Newburgh Four’ were freed. The group was arrested in 2009 on charges of conspiracy to bomb Jewish buildings in New York and shoot down National Guard planes.

The group was convicted in 2011 and sentenced to twenty-five years in prison.

Last July, Judge McMahon ordered the other three conspirators released on the grounds that they had been manipulated into the plot by the FBI.

According to the Associated Press, prosecutors in the high-profile case said the Newburgh defendants spent months scouting targets and securing what they thought were explosives and a surface-to-air missile. They were arrested after allegedly planting “bombs” that were packed with inert explosives supplied by the FBI.

In her ruling, McMahon denounced "overexcited FBI agents and unreliable covert informants" as the basis for the original conviction, saying that the FBI had targeted men down on their luck after serving prior sentences.

She likewise denounced the covert informant himself, Shaheed Hussain, who had been tasked with infiltrating mosques to identify potential terrorists, calling them "most unsavory villains" sent by the government to "troll among the poorest and weakest of men for ‘terrorists’ who might prove susceptible to an offer of much-needed cash in exchange for committing a faux crime."

Hussain has drawn significant criticism for his work in another case, targeting an Albany pizza shop owner and Imam, in which he presented himself as loaning money from a fake missile sale. The two men were both convicted of money laundering and conspiring to aid a terrorist group.

“The defendants…would not have, and could not have, devised on their own a crime involving missiles that would have warranted the 25-year sentence the court was forced to impose. The notion that Cromitie was selected as a ‘leader’ by the co-defendants is inconceivable, given his well-documented buffoonery and ineptitude,” she wrote.

Cromitie’s attorney, Kerry Lawrence, said that while he had not yet been able to contact his client, Cromitie’s family was very happy with the ruling.

“I’m obviously thrilled that Mr. Cromitie will be released from prison, but still believe that his conviction was entirely the product of government entrapment,” Lawrence wrote in an email. “Seeing as he was hounded and manipulated by the government informant way more than any of ... the other defendants who were previously ordered released, it would have been shocking if Judge McMahon didn’t grant our motion.”

Calls seeking comment were made Saturday to the FBI and the U.S. Attorney’s office in New York City.

Have those JBTs ever uncovered a real terrorist plot, one in which no one from the gov't. was involved in setting someone up? You'd think they'd be singing it from the highest mountaintop if they had.

This really came to a head during the "war on terror". The FBI had virtually no functional intelligence about middle eastern extremists, and nothing to go on to prosecute a "war on terror" to appear like they were "winning". They horribly botched 9/11 by NOT reacting appropriately to reports of scary middle eastern guys at flight school who don't have much interest in learning to land a plane.

Due to the way terror cells work semi-independently, avoid electronic communication, and avoid traceable payments, and the fact that they speak arabic (or other middle eastern langauge) and LOOK middle eastern, they are very hard to infiltrate. The FBI didn't have people that could be convincing, since most of the cold war U.S. intelligence aparatus was set up around using white people who can speak Russian or German or other European languages.

So they resorted to the entrapment scheme - find some disaffected poor middle eastern kid, convince him to engage in jihad, provide inert bomb materials, then "catch" him in the act. Looked good in the news "FBI foiled another terrorist plot!" and such.

Now they are doing the same thing against "far-right" conservatives. The entire M.O. of the FBI now is entrapment, and they need a complete gutting a overhaul to become an actual investigative bureau.

Little reminder of what the FBI does.

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Records: Undercover FBI agent was at Garland, Texas, attack


HOENIX - An undercover FBI agent who was investigating terrorism was driving past two Arizona men just before they opened fire outside a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in suburban Dallas in 2015, court records show, raising questions about whether authorities could have done more to stop the attack.

The records became available to The Associated Press in the criminal case against Abdul Malik Abdul Kareem, a Phoenix man who was sentenced this week to 30 years in prison on criminal convictions that included providing support to Islamic State.

Kareem wasn’t at the event in Garland, Texas, but authorities say he provided guns used by Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi in the attack, instructed them on how to use weapons and watched violent jihadist videos with them.

Kareem was one of the first people brought to trial in the U.S. on charges related to Islamic State.

The court records also show that the unidentified agent had exchanged social media messages with one of the gunmen days before the attack that left the two attackers dead and a security guard wounded.

Drawings such as the ones shown at the contest are considered offensive to Muslims and have sparked violence around the world.

The Texas contest was held nearly four months after an attack on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in what extremists claim was retaliation for the publication of cartoons about the Prophet Muhammad.

The fact that there was an FBI agent at the contest in Texas who was in contact with Simpson has drawn criticism from Kareem’s lawyer and the security guard’s lawyer. They say the government has not been forthcoming about the agent’s role in the plot and have questions why the agency didn’t break up the plot.

“We are convinced that there is much more to this story than the FBI has admitted ,” said Trenton Roberts, an attorney for security guard Bruce Joiner.

The FBI declined to comment on whether the agency believed beforehand that Simpson and Soofi would launch an attack and on Kareem’s claim that the agent’s presence wasn’t revealed to avoid embarrassment. The Garland Police Department also declined to comment.

The agent had been sitting in a vehicle outside the Garland convention center just as events wrapped up at the cartoon contest.

A dark sedan in front of the agent made an abrupt stop. As the agent drove around the car, two men with an Islamic State flag, wearing body armor and carrying military-style rifles, got out and opened fire.

The agent drove away and was later stopped by police. The two men were killed in a shootout with law enforcement assigned to guard the controversial event, and the security guard was shot in the leg.

The agent’s presence at the contest wasn’t publicly revealed until 15 months later and has raised questions about whether authorities could have done more to stop the attack.

There was no mention at Kareem’s trial last year that an undercover agent witnessed the shooting and had exchanged social media messages with one of the men days before the attack.

The agent’s presence at the event was first revealed in August in court records in a criminal case in Cleveland against Erick Jamal Hendricks, a North Carolina man accused of trying to recruit people to join Islamic State.

Hendricks says he had been paid by the FBI since 2009 to help identify potential terrorists. He has pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiring to provide material support to the Islamic State.

More details emerged in December in court records in Kareem’s case, revealing for the first time the officer’s proximity to the shooters.

Kareem’s attorney said in court records that Hendricks put the undercover agent into contact with Simpson about 10 days before the attack. In one encounter with the agent, Simpson, who had a prior terrorism-related conviction, referred to the upcoming contest in Texas.

On the day of the attack, the agent communicated with Hendricks while the agent was outside the convention center. Hendricks asked about the size of the crowd, whether snipers were present and other questions, according to records.

The agent, according to an FBI record filed in Kareem’s case, snapped two photos from the convention center parking lot moments before the shooting. One shows a police officer and another person standing in the distance near a tree. The second image was taken less than 30 seconds before the shooting.

An estimated 25 to 30 officers were at the contest in Garland. Snipers were posted in nearby buildings, and officers stood guard in parking lots and drove around the convention center on motorcycles looking for anything suspicious.

In the days after the shooting, FBI Director James Comey said federal investigators learned only hours before the contest that a man under investigation for extremist activities might show up at the contest and alerted local authorities. Comey also said investigators had no indication that the man planned to attack the event.

Daniel Maynard, an attorney for Kareem, said in court records that the government hasn’t explained the agent’s presence at the contest. Maynard said the agent did little to stop the attack, according to court records.

Much of the evidence about the agent supports his client’s view that “this was not an unbiased investigation by the FBI to determine the truth, but a rush to judgment to get a conviction and to cover up the FBI’s own ineptness and misdeeds,” Maynard wrote.

https://www.azcentral.com/stor...ror-attack/97740354/

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A dark sedan in front of the agent made an abrupt stop. As the agent drove around the car, two men with an Islamic State flag, wearing body armor and carrying military-style rifles, got out and opened fire.

The agent drove away and was later stopped by police.

Top Men...

So have any of these Feeb thugs ever been charged with fabricating false charges and sending unwittingly manipulated people to prison in fake charges?

Perhaps we have reached the time when we need a Star Chamber to start providing real justice in this country.

A) Cleaning up the FBI/Feds in general, will be like removing NAZIs from Germany.

Yes, lots of them are traitors.

However, lots of them are also men like an acquaintance of mine, who is a decent man, and has pretty much spent his career chasing down stolen military munitions.

B) Admittedly, my only professional interaction was disgusting. (Not getting into it here, but the agent was clearly more interested in advancing his career, over others in his office, than anything else.)

C) Especially if you're a LEO, I can understand going for a "ride along" with Feds going to arrest a family member.

Heck, I think most attorneys will do it, if they think it could help head off any violence.

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B) Admittedly, my only professional interaction was disgusting. (Not getting into it here, but the agent was clearly more interested in advancing his career, over others in his office, than anything else.)

A decent man otherwise though...

One might call this 'look behind the curtain' a clue into the real guy behind the mask!

THE FBI HAS LOWERED ITS ALREADY LOW STANDARDS

https://mises.org/power-market...lready-low-standards

The New York Post reports:

An alarming deterioration in recruitment standards for the FBI has been exposed in a report delivered to the House Judiciary Committee by an alliance of retired and active-duty agents and analysts.

Diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) requirements pushed by FBI Director Chris Wray have degraded recruitment standards in all areas including “physical fitness, illicit drug use, financial irregularities, mental health, full-time work experience and integrity,” and pose a threat to the FBI’s ability to protect America from harm, say the authors.

The headline reads that the change in hiring standards puts the "country's safety at risk." The article goes on to recount in detail how new recruits are overweight and unable to run even 1.5 miles. But, according to the report, these people are hired anyway because they check a few DEI boxes.

I get what the author, Miranda Devine, is trying to say. She's trying to criticize the DEI ideology by saying that it leads to lower quality agents at the FBI. I agree with her that DEI is a bad thing. However, her attempt to portray the pre-DEI FBI as an agency of "the best and brightest," or as an agency that's key to the "country's safety," is nothing more than the official mythology.

If the DEI change means anything, it just means that the standards for hiring at the FBI have fallen even lower than they were before. Now, instead of just hiring tyrannical control freaks who robotically serve every whim of the regime, the FBI is now hiring tyrannical control freaks who are also fat and lazy. Some might claim that's an improvement. At least the new recruits may take more time off from violating the basic human rights of Americans.

Here are the questions that really matter for an FBI hiring manager:

Are you willing to spread made-up nonsense about Russian collusion?
Are you willing to spy on and conspire against a presidential candidate and his staff?
Are willing to harass and threaten parents who disagree with the local school board's attempts to teach more Marxism in schools?
Are willing to spy on Catholics and work to cultivate a network of informants in parishes to "rat out" Catholics who are too "traditionalist"?
If can answer yes to all these questions, you would probably make a great FBI agent. Now, with new DEI guidelines implemented, you can do all these things and also be in horrible physical shape—so long as you are a black woman or trans man.

Sadly, Devine at The New York Post has bought into the pro-regime propaganda that has long attempted to make FBI agents into consummate professionals who care deeply about their country and are "the best and the brightest." This was never true. The FBI has always been a trash organization, an unconstitutional waste of money that has largely functioned as the nation's secret police. Indeed, under J. Edgar Hoover, it employed tactics remarkably similar to those used by the KGB: it collected anything and everything it could on elected officials and other powerful Americans to use as leverage. The agency employed this illegally obtained data to ensure that few in Congress would ever be willing to go against the FBI.

The FBI has always been a cudgel used by the regime against peaceful Americans who oppose the regime's pet projects, such as the Vietnam war. The FBI was the agency at the center of COINTELPRO, an illegal spy effort designed to destroy antiwar activists in America. The FBI tried to get Martin Luther king to commit suicide. The FBI initiated the siege that led to the Waco massacre of dozens of women and children.

Moreover, the idea that the FBI keeps America safe is pure fantasy. The FBI is unnecessary to enforce laws against violent crime. Violent crime is already illegal in every US state, and every US state has its own state police. Secondly, the FBI, more so than any other agency—with the possible exception of the CIA—let the 9/11 bombings occur right under its nose. And how could they not? The FBI's "watchlist" includes the names of over a million Americans. While the FBI was busy hunting down people like Randy Weaver for petty gun crimes, it failed to notice real terrorists planting bombs under the World Trade Center—as occurred in 1993.

Yet, the old myth of the highly professional, ultra-America-loving FBI agents endures, and The New York Post would have you believe that FBI agents were top notch until DEI came along.

As a final note, it may be instructive to recall the case of FBI Agent Chase Bishop. Agent Bishop was dancing at a Denver night club in 2018. When he attempted a back flip, his gun fell out of his pocket, hit the ground, accidentally discharged, and wounded a bystander. Bishop pled to second-degree assault and avoided jail time. The regime's faithful servants usually receive special treatment from the regime's judges. Even though it is illegal in Colorado to carry a gun while intoxicated in Colorado, Bishop was never charged with any gun crimes, and he received his gun back shortly after his conviction. It appears Bishop is still employed by the Bureau. This all occurred during the Trump years and was certainly before the new era of DEI. In other words, drunk guys dropping loaded guns while dancing is the FBI's "best and brightest." It's nothing new, and the taxpayers will continue to fund these people's assaults on liberty, their outsized salaries, and their grotesquely large pensions until the FBI is finally abolished.