Nah, they don’t want to split the vote and he’d rather take another dive in the 8th round and get another payout.

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Originally posted by benny6:
Maybe they'll encourage him to run independent under the socialist party. AOC as his VP.

Tony.

She can't be his VP.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
Personally, I think at this point, if you consider yourself a conservative but are still (or even newly) a NeverTrumper, then you’ve let emotion, and personal tastes, rather than logic, guide you. There’s a lot of former NeverTrumpers who’ve had the scales fall from their eyes since he took office.

I think the big question is what are the Bernie bros who stayed home last time in a snit fit going to do this time when he gets railroaded again.

That is the big question.
And I think the Bernie bros who stayed home last time will mostly do the same thing again. Of course, many will reluctantly pull the lever for Warren or Biden, but a lot of them will be disillusioned and stay home. Bernie won't run 3rd party.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Bernie won't run 3rd party.

This much, I'm pretty sure of. Their big, stated goal, is unseat Trump, and him going 3rd party does nothing to help that. He’ll take another payout and may or may not run for his seat in the senate.

I believe their second, unstated goal, was to run candidates like him, and Beto, and others and see how super-leftist topics and positions were polling. How they played out on the debate stage and reactions to it. It seems to be moving more that direction, but I think the Dems don’t feel like a Bernie could win right now.

We’ve got most of a year left to the election, so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out, but they seem to again have it in for ‘ol Bunny Sanduss.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Bernie won't run 3rd party.

I believe their second, unstated goal, was to run candidates like him, and Beto, and others and see how super-leftist topics and positions were polling. How they played out on the debate stage and reactions to it. It seems to be moving more that direction, but I think the Dems don’t feel like a Bernie could win right now.

If/when the DNC convention in Milwaukee devolves into a shit-show, I'm predicting a chunk of the most-left of the Dems, will leave the party and flock to the Greens. They'll align themselves with the European Greens and attempt to elevate the US Green party to the national stage beyond what Ralph Nader was able to do. It'll be the party for the socialist-minded and the Alphabet People.

Entirely possible. There were a lot of cries to do so after the 2016 election.

I think it may be safe to say that we're seeing the dissolution of the "big tent" Democrat party. They tried to round up everyone who wasn't a white guy and claim to represent them, when it simply was never a possibility in the first place.

I'm totally ok with everyone left of the middle splintering into their own little special factions. I think the reason it hasn't happened so far, and possibly won't, however, is the same reasons the TEA party and Libertarian party never amounted to anything. That's all been discussed at length here over the years.

I think more options are better than the binary choice in terms of politics. However, that isn't the reality we find ourselves in, currently. In any case, our best bet is still Donald Trump. But it is amusing to watch them reach the point in the race where the knives start to come out.

And "experts" and "pundits" predicted the Republican party would dissolve once Donald Trump was elected. Wish I woulda taken the odds and put a Grant down on THAT bet!!

I did say "possibly won't" for the very same reasons.

We on the right tend to love freedom and respect life. Those on the left tend to love state control and "fairness of outcome."

The difference is, people who love freedom are just people. And we respect and welcome them as they join our ranks. People who want state control and "fairness of outcome" all get herded into their "intersectional" cattle cars of preference and rank, and all head down the same rails to the same conclusion that socialism and communism guarantees: When everyone who disagrees with the state gets a bullet in the back of the skull, the outcome is fair.

Time to hear from my favorite leftist, Jimmy Dore. This is what Elizabeth Warren is made of- freezing in the face of hecklers and having to be rescued ("What do we do??" Yes, she actually said this- a person who wants to be the leader of the free world freezes up and has to be rescued from a handful of hecklers), and the second part is Warren's pandering and stuttering doubletalk non-answer to Megan McCain on the idiotic View. Listen to the long-winded tangent this imbecile goes on in an effort to not answer the question.

This wants to be POTUS, the most powerful position in the free world. What a fucking joke. Forget about the fact that the woman is a pathological liar. She has feet of clay.

Like so much wet cardboard. That's what we need for a president!

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Time to hear from my favorite leftist, Jimmy Dore.

Just a quick sidebar, Jimmy Dore was on Joe Rogan's show yesterday. I haven't listened to it yet so can't comment on it.

https://youtu.be/amx14K9N5CY

Damn, Warren is a wet noodle.

Nobody wants a mousy librarian as president. She can’t possibly think she can handle the stress of the job. How pathetic.

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Damn, Warren is a wet noodle.

Nobody wants a mousy librarian as president. She can’t possibly think she can handle the stress of the job. How pathetic.

She couldn't handle being a dog catcher in Palm Springs.

"What do we do?"

LMAO at NYT, what an utter joke you have become.

Hedging your bets like a bunch of little weasels:

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OPINION
THE DEMOCRATS’ BEST CHOICES FOR PRESIDENT
BY THE EDITORIAL BOARD
PUBLISHED JAN. 19, 2020

In a break with convention, the
editorial board has chosen to endorse two separate Democratic candidates for president.

Amy Klobuchar and Elizabeth Warren

Link

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Originally posted by PASig:
LMAO at NYT, what an utter joke you have become.

Everybody gets a trophy.

I haven’t heard much from Biden lately. Seems like it’s time for the media to go to work on the rest of the group of shitheads, while he sits back and swoops in for the nomination at the last minute.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by benny6:
Maybe they'll encourage him to run independent under the socialist party. AOC as his VP.

Tony.

She can't be his VP.

Details, details...

Let them figure it out later.

It would be fun to watch. They don’t follow the rules anyway.

Biden campaign issues memo to media warning them against spreading “Trump misinformation” Getting Nervous Joe?

Poor Tom Steyer, Bernie REALLY doesn't seem to like you, pal!

Bernie Brush-Off

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Time to hear from my favorite leftist, Jimmy Dore.

Broken clock correct, twice a day. Is Dore a more palatable version of Bill Maher..? At least he's willing to skewer the left..