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Originally posted by DoctorSolo:

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Originally posted by Cope:
If it turns out to be a Glock, or other similar striker fired handgun, it is a strong indicator of why I greatly prefer DA/SA semi-auto handguns.

Why? Because retarded people are more likely to ND a glock?

Not really, but a hammer-fired gun, or one with a striker that protrudes from the rear of the slide like an H&K P7, will allow the shooter to feel what's going on with a thumb while holstering, and give an indication that something is wrong. A gun with an internal striker, like a Glock or a SIG P320, does not give a tactile indication that something like a piece of clothing, or maybe the drawstring of a windbreaker type jacket, might be snagged in the holster, ready to grab the trigger.

For this reason, I have thought that a Glock might be a great gun for the glove box or the nightstand, but with a belt holster there is a degree of exposure to AD / ND that is not present with, for example, a traditional SIG P2xx pistol.

Personal preference and all that yadayada I too prefer dao revolver or da/sa semi.

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Originally posted by DoctorSolo:

Why? Because retarded people are more likely to ND a glock?

I carried a P226 for years, and recently switched to a G23. I do have to say that the Glock's trigger makes an ND a LOT more likely (far less trigger pull on a striker-fired pistol than a DA with the hammer down), as it's a more sensitive trigger pull (than my P226 with the hammer down).

And, yes, the foolish and/or careless ARE more likely to ND a Glock (or other striker-fired pistol), IMO. That's why we need training and familiarity with our weapons, whichever they may be.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:

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Originally posted by DoctorSolo:

Why? Because retarded people are more likely to ND a glock?

I carried a P226 for years, and recently switched to a G23. I do have to say that the Glock's trigger makes an ND a LOT more likely (far less trigger pull on a striker-fired pistol than a DA with the hammer down), as it's a more sensitive trigger pull (than my P226 with the hammer down).

And, yes, the foolish and/or careless ARE more likely to ND a Glock (or other striker-fired pistol), IMO. That's why we need training and familiarity with our weapons, whichever they may be.

I've equipped my carry G19 with one of Todd L. Green's (RIP) "gadgets" simply to copy holstering a striker fired pistol in the same manner as I do with my DA pistols.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by DoctorSolo:

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Originally posted by Cope:
If it turns out to be a Glock, or other similar striker fired handgun, it is a strong indicator of why I greatly prefer DA/SA semi-auto handguns.

Why? Because retarded people are more likely to ND a glock?

Not really, but a hammer-fired gun, or one with a striker that protrudes from the rear of the slide like an H&K P7, will allow the shooter to feel what's going on with a thumb while holstering, and give an indication that something is wrong. A gun with an internal striker, like a Glock or a SIG P320, does not give a tactile indication that something like a piece of clothing, or maybe the drawstring of a windbreaker type jacket, might be snagged in the holster, ready to grab the trigger.

For this reason, I have thought that a Glock might be a great gun for the glove box or the nightstand, but with a belt holster there is a degree of exposure to AD / ND that is not present with, for example, a traditional SIG P2xx pistol.

I appreciate the mention of the P7. Riding the extruded firing pin into the holster is another indictor that you could potentially have a problem. The P7M8 is my only striker fired handgun, but I still don't carry it.

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Originally posted by Scooter123:
Can we Que up the video of that cop, who was the only one qualified to carry a 40 caliber Glock, that shot himself while holstering said Glock.

DEA Agent - and he was not holstering, he pulled the trigger on what he thought was an unloaded gun.

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Originally posted by elde:
I've equipped my carry G19 with one of Todd L. Green's (RIP) "gadgets" simply to copy holstering a striker fired pistol in the same manner as I do with my DA pistols.

What are you referring to?

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Originally posted by Cope:
If it turns out to be a Glock, or other similar striker fired handgun, it is a strong indicator of why I greatly prefer DA/SA semi-auto handguns.

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This is now in all my Glocks.

One thing I wish to point out. We are ASSuming he had his finger on the trigger when he was reholstering. However, we really don't know much about much from this one article.
Even if it were a Glock, there are a couple other ways to get a Glock to discharge going into the holster without a finger. One is some type of foreign object (READ: the little elastic jacket thingys that are all the rage for clothing manufacturers to put on their stuff), and the other is that on some holsters cheaper holsters, it is possible to catch parts of the holster in the trigger guard and allow the gun to fire.

We just don't know. Until we otherwise know for sure, I'm going to give the dude the benefit of the doubt, instead of squabbling over assumptions of whether it was an accidental or negligent discharge.

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Originally posted by Chipster:
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This is now in all my Glocks.

Thanks much. I had no idea such a device existed, but if I owned a Glock, I would definitely have one.

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Originally posted by jljones:
(READ: the little elastic jacket thingys that are all the rage for clothing manufacturers to put on their stuff)...

Speaking of which, I recently got a Arcteryx LEAF jacket off the prize table. They use little tubes to capture those inside the jacket so they can't go into holsters.

Really a neat feature to see, it is obvious that come companies are listening and implementing changes in their tactical lines.

When holstering a Glock, you can't ride the hammer. On the other hand, you can't forget to de-cock it either.

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Originally posted by HCM:

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Originally posted by Scooter123:
Can we Que up the video of that cop, who was the only one qualified to carry a 40 caliber Glock, that shot himself while holstering said Glock.

DEA Agent - and he was not holstering, he pulled the trigger on what he thought was an unloaded gun.

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Originally posted by Fenris:
When holstering a Glock, you can't ride the hammer. On the other hand, you can't forget to de-cock it either.

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Originally posted by Chipster:
https://taudevgroup.myshopify.com

This is now in all my Glocks.

Well, that's ingenious.

"Little elastic jacket thingies"? I'm sorry, but I'm totally in the dark about those. What are you talking about?

flashguy

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Originally posted by flashguy:
"Little elastic jacket thingies"? I'm sorry, but I'm totally in the dark about those. What are you talking about?

I believe he's referring to the elastic waist adjustment cords (often with plastic cord locks and other decorative bits) that many jacket makers love to put at the 9:00 and 3:00 position, where they're in a great position to dangle into a holster and inadvertently work their way into a trigger guard while reholstering.

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