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Are people who are expected to receive tips - specifically, restaurant servers - allowed to be paid less than minimum wage?
 
Posts: 28645 | Location: Johnson City, TN | Registered: April 28, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yes, in most states
 
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In most states, yes. But I think some West coast municipalities may have changed their laws and brought those people up to the minimum wage, which defeats the purpose of tips.
 
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Tipped employees are one of the specific exceptions to the federal minimum wage.
US Dept of Labor - Wage and Hour division
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What is the minimum wage for workers who receive tips?

An employer may pay a tipped employee not less than $2.13 an hour in direct wages if that amount plus the tips received equal at least the federal minimum wage, the employee retains all tips and the employee customarily and regularly receives more than $30 a month in tips.

If an employee's tips combined with the employer's direct wages of at least $2.13 an hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference.

Some states have minimum wage laws specific to tipped employees. When an employee is subject to both the federal and state wage laws, the employee is entitled to the provisions of each law which provide the greater benefits.
 
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Originally posted by Palm:
But I think some West coast municipalities may have changed their laws and brought those people up to the minimum wage, which defeats the purpose of tips.

I would submit that that returns tips to what they should be (a little something extra to show appreciation for exemplary service) rather than guilting you into paying their wages.


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A discussion came up elsewhere in which the poster claimed his waitress daughter makes $3.57 an hour. So that part is true, but not the whole truth, as he failed to mention her tips.
 
Posts: 28645 | Location: Johnson City, TN | Registered: April 28, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yes, my wife probably only makes $2 or $3 an hour, but she makes $300-600 a night in tips depending on the night and time of year. She makes exceptionally good money as a server.

Heck, on New Year's eve, she once pulled in just under $1,000 in tips. One night!

She still gets paid by paycheck though including tips every two weeks, so it is all reported to the IRS. Bummer Razz


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Posts: 30901 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yes, my wife probably only makes $2 or $3 an hour, but she makes $300-600 a night in tips depending on the night and time of year. She makes exceptionally good money as a server.

Heck, on New Year's eve, she once pulled in just under $1,000 in tips. One night!

She still gets paid by paycheck though including tips every two weeks, so it is all reported to the IRS. Bummer Razz

Good waiters/waitresses/bartenders can make exceptionally good money, especially if it is above the amount they are expected to declare on their income tax form.



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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Yes, my wife probably only makes $2 or $3 an hour, but she makes $300-600 a night in tips depending on the night and time of year. She makes exceptionally good money as a server.

Heck, on New Year's eve, she once pulled in just under $1,000 in tips. One night!

She still gets paid by paycheck though including tips every two weeks, so it is all reported to the IRS. Bummer Razz


She has to turn over her cash tips?



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Yes, my wife probably only makes $2 or $3 an hour, but she makes $300-600 a night in tips depending on the night and time of year. She makes exceptionally good money as a server.

Heck, on New Year's eve, she once pulled in just under $1,000 in tips. One night!

She still gets paid by paycheck though including tips every two weeks, so it is all reported to the IRS. Bummer Razz


She has to turn over her cash tips?


All tips are supposed to be turned over, yes. That's the practice at her restaurant.

She has her regulars who visit Park City a few times a year or once a year and always request her for a server. They will sometimes slip her some money and say, "This is for the new baby; make sure you keep that" or something like that. But 95% of the time, all her tips are turned over.


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Posts: 30901 | Location: Elv. 7,000 feet, Utah | Registered: October 29, 2012Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Originally posted by Palm:
But I think some West coast municipalities may have changed their laws and brought those people up to the minimum wage, which defeats the purpose of tips.

I would submit that that returns tips to what they should be (a little something extra to show appreciation for exemplary service) rather than guilting you into paying their wages.


Yes I think that is probably more accurate than my statement.
 
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Originally posted by Palm:
But I think some West coast municipalities may have changed their laws and brought those people up to the minimum wage, which defeats the purpose of tips.

I would submit that that returns tips to what they should be (a little something extra to show appreciation for exemplary service) rather than guilting you into paying their wages.


I agree with this 100%. And it's infrequent that I'll say those areas do something right. My wife is from NZ. There, nobody tips, ever (excepting American or Canadian tourists who don't generally know better.) Servers, hairdressers, etc do their jobs because it's the right thing to do, not because they're hoping for a tip.
 
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Whenever possible, I prefer to leave cash tips.


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Yes in KS when i waited tables in college it was something like 2.25$ an hour + tips. Tips were turned over and recorded and if you did not meet minimum wage they would then make your paycheck based on minimum wage and not tips. So you get the higher of the two.



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Big debate in Minneapolis, which is doing everything it can to give the Left Coast a run for their money.

City is trying to pass a $15 minimum wage and INCLUDE tipped servers in that. Restaurant owners are losing their minds (rightly so), and it saddens me to watch this once great city turn to shit.

http://m.startribune.com/minne...ordinance/426781661/

Hell, even the city's former mayor is questioning the decision.

http://m.startribune.com/minne...ip-credit/427551223/


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Originally posted by jehzsa:
Whenever possible, I prefer to leave cash tips.


That's what I do. I give it directly to the server.


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I seldom tip.
But I gift a lot of people I meet when I am dining and other such things...

(That's a tip, tip...)




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Whenever possible, I prefer to leave cash tips.


That's what I do. I give it directly to the server.


I try to do this as well. Sometimes I don't have the cash on me though...

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Posts: 8940 | Location: Florida | Registered: September 20, 2004Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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CA servers get minimum wage plus tips. I wish tipping would go away. The customer shouldn't be forced to play middleman in a fair wage dispute between employer and employee.
 
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