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Peace through superior firepower |
When I need your advice on how to manage this forum, I'll ask for it, and as for every other subject known to man, you can safely assume that I am not interested in your fucking opinion. Just stop yammering. I told you to cool it and I am not going to tell you again. You are not going to have the last word. Period. You don't get to lecture me in this forum. | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
The problem with this leftist talking point is that it is not the woman's body that concerns the anti-abortion folks. You do realize there is ANOTHER human being involved in this unique human contract called pregnancy- the baby in the womb. A baby is not a pound of flesh, not an insignificant body part like an appendix or tonsils, a concept embraced by many on the left. The baby is a separate human being, a separate soul. The woman's body is to protect the baby from outside forces, and it is shameful that we devolved from a society that used to protect the unborn baby at all costs, to a society that can willfully murder them at the drop of a hat. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
All of these issues have two sides to them, and if you think 'gun control' is way, way down on the list of important things, you are on the wrong forum! Further, how you could not inseparably link 'security' to 'gun control' is simply astounding! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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The 2nd guarantees the 1st |
The dems won both the house and the senate here in VA and we are screwed. Look for even more gun control laws and restrictions to be passed, even worse than what we have now. "Even if the world were perfect it wouldn't be." ... Yogi Berra | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^Barring veto-proof majorities, which there arent, the worst thing that will happen is nothing! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Guns and Abortion get the checkbooks out and that's all you need to remember as to "why" they're platform issues for the two parties. They don't care about privacy, the Constitution or much of anything but themselves and holding onto power. | |||
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Irksome Whirling Dervish |
Gun control is more important to one side than the other. Crime control is what voters are concerned with a gun control, one way or the other, is only a part of it. The voters are seeing no bail not working, catch and release everywhere, early release, shoplifting or crimes without consequence and government doing nothing to address it. Crime control doesn't always mean pro-gun to everyone, even though it should. | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
^^^So which side is gun control 'more' important to, or are you being intentionally vague? There are two sides to the issue, and for certain, it's a damn important issue to everyone on our side! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
At least the voters in Loudoun did two things right. That vile hag Biberaj is gone along with the last Democrats on the LCPS Board.
Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
No, ALL abortions are. Not "most". Every single one of them. Rolling up on 70,000,000 slaughtered children since the Roe ruling. 70,000,000. For convenience and selfishness. No other reason. Sleep on that thought. 7 million Jews slaughtered and we scream "never again". 70 million children slaughtered and we scream for more. Some of you people are just plain fucking sick. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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Meanwhile, over here in Fairfax County our commonwealth attorney supported by the G.S. guy mentioned above by Sig2340 ran unopposed except for write in ballots; his challenger got 44% of the vote though. And the school board is solid "D". | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
Until Ronna Romney is removed as the head of the RNC, nothing will change. Problem is, the RNC is the organization of the McCarthys and Ryans and the Cheneys and the Romneys. It'll be a tough job rooting them out. Gaetz got the ball rolling and let's hope it keeps up, but only when those leftist/deep staters are gone from any position of power, will we see meaningful changes in election outcomes. They WANT status quo because it keeps them in power and it keeps/makes them rich, but they tell us in flyover country (and everywhere else) that they are fighting the good fight for us. They are lying. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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If that 44% had just bothered to go vote in the Democratic primary, an open primary, Ed Nuttall would be Fairfax County's Commonwealth Attorney right now. But alas, Republicans will never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. | |||
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Cruising the Highway to Hell |
Living in central VA, and in a conservative county, it sickens me to have seen all the commercials on tv by the Dems, basically running on abortion as their main platform and winning. How in this world have we become a state or nation, who supports killing children for convenience. Im more and more disappointed in humanity every day. “Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.” ― Ronald Reagan Retired old fart | |||
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Hop head |
GOP, esp in Va, has managed to shoot itself in the foot for years, this election was no different, Youngkin and crew won because McAwful stepped on his dick, and pissed off the soccer moms the GOP needs to dial back the Abortion bit, that may piss off many, but it is a bit obvious the dems beat that horse to death, and the GOP let them, hence the left took over,, again, also, the Dems, , cheating or not, are lock step in opinion and gettign votes, the GOP,, no so much, damn shame too, but at least the porn star did not get elected https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
I agree with J.D. Vance. Morally, I am opposed to abortion. Politically, such a position will deny conservatives power. Politics is the art of persuading people to vote for you, and then using the resultant power to improve their lives. The first step is getting elected; if you can't do that, you don't get to play. X Link
"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Exactly, Broadside. FWIW I did my part and voted against him and several others in the primary. Wasn't too pleased that my Delegate was also unopposed. He authored one of the more idiotic anti-2A bills back in the Ralphie days. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Except this:
Is not what J.D. Vance is saying...
Finding a way to win is not the same as avoiding the conflict because there are more important things or it's too much effort. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Age Quod Agis |
You are correct in noting that Vance is not willing to say what I am in order to win. I'm not a politician, who is reliant on donors who want republicans involved in the abortion debate. I am willing to say what he is not. I don't want my preferred politicians involved in the debate. I want to leave the debate behind, and focus on gaining and using power for things that at this time we can achieve. Abortion is a moral issue. Political power is not. Law is not a morality play, even when laws have a moral component. Laws are the agreed rules of society. Society, at the moment, can not agree on the rules for this issue, and the moral position is a political loser. Winning this issue will take years of persuasion, not a moment of voting. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
You are definitely right about that. It took 50 years to wrestle the issue away from 9 men (at that time) in black robes. It will never be a "settled" issue as long as human lives are at stake. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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