I think they also should forgive all the debts that their medical graduates are still bearing. What do you think? While at it, forgive all debts for all, not just medical, graduates. And offer free tuition for all current and future students.

https://www.medscape.com/viewa...&impID=1714365&faf=1

NYU to Offer Free Tuition to All Current, Future Med Students

Alicia Ault
August 16, 2018


The New York University (NYU) School of Medicine says it will offer free tuition to all current and future students regardless of need or merit, making it the largest and highest-ranked medical school to make such an offer.

NYU officials said they made the decision in the hopes of attracting a more diverse group of students who will no longer have to fear that medical school is out of reach because they would incur a mountain of debt. The debt load has also pushed graduates away from less lucrative fields, such as primary care, obstetrics, and gynecology, toward higher-paying specialties.

"This decision recognizes a moral imperative that must be addressed, as institutions place an increasing debt burden on young people who aspire to become physicians," said Robert I. Grossman, MD, the Saul J. Farber Dean of NYU School of Medicine and CEO of NYU Langone Health, in a statement.

"We believe that with our tuition-free initiative, we have taken a necessary, rational step that addresses a critical need to train the most talented physicians, unencumbered by crushing debt," he said, adding, "We hope that many other academic medical centers will soon choose to join us on this path."

The NYU statement cited data from the Association of American Medical Colleges, which has found that 75% of all American physicians graduated with debt in 2017. The median cost of medical education at a private medical school is $59,605 per year, and the median current debt of a graduating student is $202,000. About a fifth of physicians graduating from a private school leave with a debt of more than $300,000, said NYU.

The cost of a year at NYU is $55,018. The New York Times reported that NYU has 93 first-year students; another 350 students have up to 3 years remaining before they obtain their degrees. All of these students will be receiving free tuition going forward, and they will receive a refund for what has already been paid.

NYU is paying for the students' education through an endowment that is currently $450 million but that it hopes will eventually grow to $600 million. Kenneth G. Langone, the cofounder of Home Depot, and his wife, Elaine — for whom the medical school is named — have contributed $100 million.

"Thanks to the extraordinary generosity of our trustees, alumni, and friends, our hope — and expectation — is that by making medical school accessible to a broader range of applicants, we will be a catalyst for transforming medical education nationwide," said Langone, who is also chair of the board of trustees of NYU Langone Health, in the statement.


Other Trailblazers

NYU said it is the only top 10–ranked medical school in the nation to offer free tuition. Other medical schools currently have or have recently launched similar programs.

The University of Houston's new College of Medicine announced in July that all 30 medical students in its inaugural class will receive free tuition when the school opens in the fall of 2020, thanks to an anonymous $3 million gift.

In December 2017, the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons — through a gift from alumni and former Merck CEO Roy Vagelos, MD — announced that it would cover tuition for all students who qualify for financial aid and who receive student loans. The scholarship would replace the student loans. Columbia estimated that 20% of its student will receive full-tuition scholarships.

The David Geffen School of Medicine at the University of California, Los Angeles, also offers full, merit-based free tuition, room and board, books, and supplies, as well as a stipend. Students who remain in good standing keep the scholarship through all 4 years of their enrollment. The school estimates that 20% (or 33 students) of each entering class qualifies. The program was endowed with $100 million by namesake benefactor David Geffen in 2012.

In 2008, the Cleveland Clinic Lerner College of Medicine at Case Western Reserve University announced that it would pay full tuition for students who enter their 5-year specialized program.

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Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

With free tuition, the NYU students can instead put their $200k in student loans towards affording a few months rent in a run-down 1 bedroom studio apartment near campus in downtown NYC.

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Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

Well, we couldn't have a VA healthcare system if it weren't for all those barely C students.

I think you appreciate things more when you pay for them. I want the brightest most qualified physicians. I could care less about diversity, and frankly am rather sick of hearing about the issue.

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Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

Then it would be all Asians, they are by far the ones with the best grades and test scores. They are also the ones that are discriminated against the most in order to put some white kids and a few black kids in.

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Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

You RACIST homophobic xenophobic trans-phobic bastard.

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Originally posted by PD:
Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

Then it would be all Asians, they are by far the ones with the best grades and test scores. They are also the ones that are discriminated against the most in order to put some white kids and a few black kids in.

Sorry, but do you only know dumb white people? My experience is entirely different.

We have enough diversity in medicine. Some are surgeons, others radiologists, others . . .Well, you get my drift. All paid their dues. Little was given to us.

RMD

I think it's a good idea.

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free tuition to all current and future students regardless of need or merit,

.... theoretical idea that could spread to other fields, like 'taxpayers'....

..... show us the evidence, none of the other ideas they push are working.....

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Originally posted by PD:
Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

Then it would be all Asians, they are by far the ones with the best grades and test scores. They are also the ones that are discriminated against the most in order to put some white kids and a few black kids in.

All Asians, eh? This might come as a shocker to you, but I've met and gone to school with some pretty dumb Asians. I've also known some pretty dumb whites, blacks, Hispanics...makes no difference their race. There's always some dumb ones among them.

It's gonna take $195 of their $450 million to take care of the 93 new and 350 existing students stated in their press release.

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Originally posted by alreadydead:

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Originally posted by PD:
Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

Then it would be all Asians, they are by far the ones with the best grades and test scores. They are also the ones that are discriminated against the most in order to put some white kids and a few black kids in.

All Asians, eh? This might come as a shocker to you, but I've met and gone to school with some pretty dumb Asians. I've also known some pretty dumb whites, blacks, Hispanics...makes no difference their race. There's always some dumb ones among them.

He means med schools would be filled with mostly Asian students, not that every Asian would get into medical school.

The military has done this for decades
https://www.usuhs.edu/apply
https://www.usuhs.edu/cahs

You get a free medical education.You get paid, room, board and books. Free.
The catch, you serve 7 years.

This is what the “free college” crowd can’t understand. Gender studies ethnic studies don’t build the nation. Invest in producers, not drones.

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Originally posted by PD:
Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

Well, we couldn't have a VA healthcare system if it weren't for all those barely C students.

You say that like ending the VA medical system is a bad thing.

I think it needs to be closed and the assets sold to pay down the national debt.

Let those eligible go where they choose. You'll likely see a reduction in cost and an improvement in outcomes.

I do not see how New York State is going to do this without being sued for discrimination.

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Invest in producers, not drones.

....ummmmm......in a beehive, the drones ARE the 'producers' in that they mate with the queen....

so sayeth https://www.perfectbee.com/lea...ole-of-the-drone-bee

Well good for them. As a private school, I like the idea, and it's for a useful program, too.

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Originally posted by PD:
Aside from the tuition BS, I don’t want to see diversity in medical school. I want to see the most qualified students.

Then it would be all Asians, they are by far the ones with the best grades and test scores. They are also the ones that are discriminated against the most in order to put some white kids and a few black kids in.

All Asians, eh? This might come as a shocker to you, but I've met and gone to school with some pretty dumb Asians. I've also known some pretty dumb whites, blacks, Hispanics...makes no difference their race. There's always some dumb ones among them.

He means med schools would be filled with mostly Asian students, not that every Asian would get into medical school.

I know exactly what he meant. So there isn't a single white med student who is smarter than any Asian med student? Rolley eyes right back at you.

Too bad I could never qualify, afford the time off work, or afford to live in NYC. Also I hate blood and germs. Otherwise I'd be all over this.