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California Won't Buy From Automakers Who Sided With Trump

California is cracking down on the automakers who backed the Trump administration in opposing the state’s bid to set its own emission standards.

The California government will bar all state agencies from purchasing any further vehicles from these companies, the New York Times reported. The ban won’t apply to public-safety vehicles.

“Carmakers that have chosen to be on the wrong side of history will be on the losing end of California’s buying power,” Gov. Newsom said in an official statement on Monday, according to the New York Times.

The automakers that intervened on President Trump’s behalf in October against a lawsuit filed by environmentalists included General Motors Company, Toyota Motors Corporation, and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles among other major companies, Reuters reported at the time.

A General Motors spokeswoman told the New York Times the ban would make it difficult for California to meet its environmental goals. She said California is reducing its choices for “affordable, American-made electric vehicles.”

California’s "emissions war" with the Trump administration has forced the automakers to choose sides. Both the state and federal governments have different opinions on the matter.

Ford Motor Company, Honda Motor Company, Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, and Volkswagen AG, signed a deal with California Air Resources Board to produce fuel-efficient cars and reduce greenhouse gas emissions in July, according to the National Public Radio.

Earlier this month, they received a civil subpoena from the Justice Department for an investigation into alleged violation of the country’s antitrust laws when signing the deal, as reported by the Wall Street Journal.
What’s Next

Newsom is planning to implement the new rules starting January, the New York Times said.

The new rules will also require the state agencies only to purchase electric or hybrid vehicles, California’s Department of General Services said in a statement on Friday.

https://www.benzinga.com/gover...who-sided-with-trump



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That's cool. The automakers aught to pull out of California. The government is representative right?

I wonder if all those decision makers will sell there personal GM/Toyota/FCA vehicles.





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Newsom is planning to implement the new rules starting January, the New York Times said.
First Newsome is a retarded, spiteful, child.
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The new rules will also require the state agencies only to purchase electric or hybrid vehicles, California’s Department of General Services said in a statement on Friday.
Second, aren't these the same morons who have a completely unreliable electrical grid and have to turn off people's power regularly to try and keep from incinerating them? Yeah, let's only rely on electric vehicles. What could possibly go wrong. Roll Eyes


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California’s "emissions war" with the Trump administration has forced the automakers to choose sides. Both the state and federal governments have different opinions on the matter.

California has had more imposing emissions standards than the United States for a long time.
I think the automakers should have stood up to them a long time ago. The automakers should have said: "We are making cars in compliance with federal emissions standards. If they can't be sold in California, then so be it. Californians can either walk, ride the bus, or buy their cars out of state."



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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I’m sick of seeing every disagreement phrased as “they’re on the wrong side of history.” Jeez, STFU with that nonsense.
 
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Really? What is next, are they going to deny services to Trump supporters or registered Republicans?

Sorry, you're a conservative, no gas, water, electricity for you!

Bullying at the State level. But this is NOT oppressive government.... As far as you know.




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Good idea, because everybody knows that electric vehicles from GM, Toyota, and FCA will never sell. Roll Eyes

Since history is such a big thing for Gov. Newsom, how is everything from Bayerische Motoren Werke AG get a free pass?



 
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This is the state that has an entire commission to oversee and regulate utilities yet, the companies it oversees, is cutting power in attempt to mitigate liability due to natural occurrences and a litigious environment Roll Eyes

States have the right to regulate their purchases....doesn't mean their employees are going to get the best tools to do the job. CHP is switching over to Dodge Chargers and Chevy Tahoes, no more Ford.
 
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Perhaps those more knowledgeable than me can chime in but most states have “fair purchase regulations” regarding state agencies buying products in the open market.

It would seem to me that by prohibiting agencies from purchasing a product from a qualified vendor might be illegal...


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Originally posted by chellim1:

The California government


Wait until Trump wins in 2020. Their collective little heads will explode




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Buying from Volkswagen. Great. We know how well their environmental record turned out.

Now they need to only buy vehicles that are responsibly sourced of every material and element from within California's boundaries & dispose of all waste in California as well.




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Buying from Volkswagen. Great. We know how well their environmental record turned out.

Now they need to only buy vehicles that are responsibly sourced of every material and element from within California's boundaries & dispose of all waste in California as well.

And have no cancer causing materials. Wink
 
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I don't see a problem with this - only applies to state agencies and not the general public

let them drive themselves further into the cesspool



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I remember when CA made Barrett 50 cals illegal for civilian sales, Barrett said fine, we will no longer service any rifles sold to your law enforcement.


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What a FuckTard. I love how LEO vehicles are exempt. That's because CHP would tell his little bitch ass to fuck off since CHP is buying Dodge Chargers and Chevy Tahoe's these days since they hate the Explorer.
 
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Boo hoo, there isn't any money to be made in Gov't sales anyway



 
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perhaps the cost of transporting those two brands of vehicles will double or triple the purchase price...

or they might decide not to sell them regardless - which might be the right answer

the revenue enhancement division of the CHP will certainly feel the pinch



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newsome thinks the country evolves around what CA does as he mandates.
 
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I couldn't care less what kind of cars the State of California provides for its' employees.
However, I think it's troubling that they have a different emissions standard than the United States. I don't think there can be any doubt that it drives up the automakers costs to comply with California's demands which they then pass along to the rest of us in the form of higher prices for their products.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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the base price of cars sold 'to the state' should be at least double what they sell to the consumer to start to make up for the lost revenue



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