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This is the kind of thing which will eventually compel the American people to take up arms and wrest their country from this filth.

Here- "I believe in free speech, really, I do, but I'm going to allow this mindless mob to prevent you from speaking." Fucking phony. Mad Empty, meaningless words. Why bother saying that phony shit, when everyone on both sides can see clearly that you DO NOT believe in freedom of speech. This was an invited speaker, for God's sake!

Mark my word- it will probably be after most members of this forum are in the ground, but the day will come when the American people will have no choice but to take up arms against these fools who shit on the Constitution and seek to stomp on the neck of Americans. That day will arrive, eventually. There can be no other way, because these fanatics cannot be reasoned with, on any level, about any thing.

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A federal judge shouted down by protesters at Stanford Law School ripped the behavior of the student body and administrators, saying they were treating their peers like "dogs**t."

Judge Kyle Duncan, who was appointed by former President Donald Trump, was invited to speak at Stanford University Thursday by the school's Federalist Society chapter. However, he was heckled by hundreds of students, who made it impossible for him to deliver his speech.

"If enough of these kids get into the legal profession, the rule of law will descend into barbarism," Duncan told the Washington Free Beacon.

Video footage widely shared on social media shows that the school's associate dean of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), Tirien Steinbach, did nothing to quell the disruption as protesters hurled verbal abuse at the judge, which appeared to violate Stanford's free speech policies.

Instead, Steinbach gave a minutes-long and emotional speech at the event, accusing Duncan of causing "harm" through his work on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. The students were particularly angry at Duncan for a 2020 opinion in which he refused to use a transgender sex offender's preferred pronouns. In comments to the Free Beacon, the judge described the incident as a "bizarre therapy session from hell."

Steinbach repeatedly said she was "uncomfortable" by the anger caused by Duncan's presence, though she sided with the students, telling Duncan while she "wholeheartedly" welcomed him because she believes in free speech, his speech was "abhorrent" and "harmful" and "literally denies the humanity of people."

She went on to question whether the University's stated commitment to free speech was worth "the pain that this causes and the division that this causes."

"You have something so incredibly important to say about Twitter and guns and COVID, then that is worth this impact and the division. . . . When I say is the juice worth the squeeze, that's what I'm asking. Is this worth it?" she challenged Duncan.

Duncan was never given the chance to read his prepared remarks. After a hostile Q&A session, he was escorted out the back door by federal marshals, who were there to "protect" him, the Free Beacon reported.

"Don’t feel sorry for me," he told the outlet. "I’m a life-tenured federal judge. What outrages me is that these kids are being treated like dogshit by fellow students and administrators."


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The students should be expelled and the dean fired. A lawyer has to know up front not to fuck with a judge, or there will be consequences.

If they don't learn it now, they'll fuck with some judge as a lawyer and their CLIENT will be the one suffering for their idiocy.

Someone here has the tagline, "Stupid should hurt". Here's a chance to put that into action.


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"If you wait by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by."

Those twerps have taken themselves out of the conversation in a bid to control what is or is not allowed to be said. That may work for an elitist institution in the San Francisco Bay Area, but that's not how the world works or is working now. If they don't re-engage with people they disagree with then they're just not going to be terribly effective when dealing with legal arguments they don't like from elsewhere in the 9th Circuit or the country in general.

Lose enough legal arguments, become essentially irrelevant. Then no one will want to listen to them.
 
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Video footage widely shared on social media shows that the school's associate dean of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), Tirien Steinbach, did nothing to quell the disruption as protesters hurled verbal abuse at the judge, which appeared to violate Stanford's free speech policies.

Instead, Steinbach gave a minutes-long and emotional speech at the event, accusing Duncan of causing "harm" through his work on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit. The students were particularly angry at Duncan for a 2020 opinion in which he refused to use a transgender sex offender's preferred pronouns. In comments to the Free Beacon, the judge described the incident as a "bizarre therapy session from hell."

She didn't learn a single thing from the Gibson's Bakery v Oberlin College case. As a representative of the university and faculty, she encouraged and fanned the flames of division and confrontation amongst the student body, particularly against a standing member of the profession to which the school is preparing its students for. Surely there's got to be a review of her standing within the faculty, she's not even a professor but, simply a compliance officer.

Tristein Steinbach - Steinbach's entire professional resume is one of community advocacy, being a pubic defender and activism. Her background started at US Santa Cruz and continued with various stops almost entirely in the East Bay, not exactly a diverse environment from a legal stand-point.

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Five law-school administrators, a student tells me, were present at the event. But instead of advising the students that they were violating university policy and asking them either to stop disrupting the event or to leave, they did nothing.

Stanford President and Law-School Dean Apologize to Judge Duncan
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I’m pleased to break the news that Stanford president Marc Tessier-Lavigne and Stanford law school dean Jenny Martinez have issued a joint letter of apology to Judge Kyle Duncan for the violations of university policies on speech that disrupted his talk on Thursday:

We write to apologize for the disruption of your recent speech at Stanford Law School. As has already been communicated to our community, what happened was inconsistent with our policies on free speech, and we are very sorry about the experience you had while visiting our campus.

In an obvious reference to DEI dean Tirien Steinbach’s bizarre six-minute scolding of Duncan, their letter observes that “staff members who should have enforced university policies failed to do so, and instead intervened in inappropriate ways that are not aligned with the university’s commitment to free speech.”

I asked Judge Duncan for comment and have received this response from him:

I appreciate receiving Stanford President Marc Tessier-Lavigne’s and Stanford Law Dean Jenny Martinez’s written apology for the disruption of my speech at the law school. I am pleased to accept their apology.

I particularly appreciate the apology’s important acknowledgment that “staff members who should have enforced university policies failed to do so, and instead intervened in inappropriate ways that are not aligned with the university’s commitment to free speech.” Particularly given the depth of the invective directed towards me by the protestors, the administrators’ behavior was completely at odds with the law school’s mission of training future members of the bench and bar.

I hope a similar apology is tendered to the persons in the Stanford law school community most harmed by the mob action: the members of the Federalist Society who graciously invited me to campus. Such an apology would also be a useful step towards restoring the law school’s broader commitment to the many, many students at Stanford who, while not members of the Federalist Society, nonetheless welcome robust debate on campus.

Finally, the apology promises to take steps to make sure this kind of disruption does not occur again. Given the disturbing nature of what happened, clearly concrete and comprehensive steps are necessary. I look forward to learning what measures Stanford plans to take to restore a culture of intellectual freedom.

Two comments:

1. Late yesterday afternoon, Martinez sent a statement to Stanford law students. (I copy her statement in two parts from a post by David Lat.) As I noted in a tweet thread yesterday evening, there was a lot that was missing from Martinez’s statement. Perhaps most galling was Martinez’s suggestion that Steinbach’s intervention was a “well-intentioned” “attempt[] at managing the room” that just “went awry.”

Why did Stanford president Tessier-Lavigne sign the apology to Duncan, rather than just leave it to Martinez to do so? One obvious possibility is that he was disappointed with her excuse-mongering for Steinbach and didn’t trust her to issue a proper apology.

2. The letter of apology is very tepid in its assertion that Stanford is “taking steps to ensure that something like this does not happen again.” We shall see what steps Stanford actually takes. Firing Steinbach would be a good first step. Identifying and publicly censuring students who engaged in flagrant misconduct would be another.
 
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She went on to question whether the University's stated commitment to free speech was worth "the pain that this causes and the division that this causes."



Excuse me? What the fuck did you just say?



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Liberals love free speech.

...but only if they approve the message.

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Unhinged woke women attack Steve Forbes, conservative authors at book launch party

KAREN TOWNSEND 5:01 PM on March 10, 2023

Two conservative women wrote a book and the unhinged left has responded. Conservative authors Bethany Mandel and Karol Markowicz and Steve Forbes, CEO of Forbes Media, were attacked at the book’s launch party Thursday by angry protesters.

“I was talking to co-author Bethany Mandel near the counter where the books were on display. Suddenly a woman seemingly out of nowhere was angrily yelling almost incoherently about matters that weren’t related to the subject of the book,” Forbes recounted to Fox News Digital exclusively.

“The books themselves were pushed off the counter loudly landing on the floor while simultaneously she tossed a drink our way,” he said, noting the drink covered him and Mandel.

“I joked that a dark suit was an advantage in a situation like this,” he said.

Now imagine, if you can, that the author was someone like liberal horror story writer Stephen King. What if he was celebrating the launch of his latest book and conservative activists ran up and started yelling “Abortion is murder” and “Concerned parents are not domestic terrorists” while throwing cups of liquid on him? Wouldn’t happen, would it? This kind of unhinged behavior leans one way and it’s with the unhinged left.

This behavior, ironically, proves the point made in the book by Mandel and Markowicz. “Stolen Youth: How Radicals Are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation” tackles the subject of the all-out war being waged against American families, specifically children, by the left. The protesters, reported to be young white women, some with blue dyed hair, were screaming, ‘Black lives matter, trans lives matter!’

Markowicz told the conservative news outlet Daily Wire News, that she saw “two wild-eyed young White women run up to our party and scream ‘Black lives matter!'”

“They threw their drinking glasses at the wall where our books were displayed and ran off,” she said.

“Suddenly I heard screaming, had books thrown at me, and I was soaking wet,” Mandel told the outlet. “I realized young women with short, dyed blue hair were screaming at us ‘Black lives matter, trans lives matter!’ I tried to talk to them, but they ran off.”

As the final touch, a group of young women waited at the doorway to yell at attendees as the event ended. They called them fascist c***s and shouted homophobic slurs. So, young woke white women are homophobic? Interesting.

Bethany Mandel is the mother of six young children. She had her newborn baby with her at the event.

As Mandel said, “They are exactly what our readers don’t want their kids turning into.” She homeschools her children and is active on social media. She doesn’t post pictures of the children, though, to protect their identity from wackos like these women. “The fact that my newborn baby narrowly missed being assaulted at his mother’s book party speaks to how right I was to protect my children from the public,” she said.

This is who the unhinged left is – wokeism is trying its best to destroy traditional American society, starting with its youth. The left intimidates, bullies, and taunts until it gets its way. Then they accuse others of behaving as they do. It’s a mental illness. Remember when the left supported free speech and the free exchange of ideas? It’s getting difficult to remember those days.
 
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People have become used to not receiving a severe and justified ass kicking for their behavior.
 
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Stanford has really gone down hill. First, Elizabeth Holmes, then Bankman-Fried and his parents who are on the law school faculty.
 
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Fascism always comes from the Left.

You don't think Conservatives would call themselves "National Socialists"...
 
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Stanford trash. These people think they are above the rest of us. Has a real Klaus Schwab feel to it. I heard during the hearings I think a couple days ago they were implicated in helping the FBI to censor conservatives online too.

I despise Stanford. Forced to use them for medical cause of Tricare. I opt out and don't go to the doc because of it, not that I really would anyway. Get forced in there because of the wife or kids and it's never good. They push their lib agenda down our throats every time.

The kids are being put up to it by the worst of humanity too. I'm of the opinion they should be rooted out and made an example of, painfully.


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Leftists are shit.
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Stanford has really gone down hill. First, Elizabeth Holmes, then Bankman-Fried and his parents who are on the law school faculty.

Don't forget Chelsea Clinton - whose (practically guaranteed) political career died before it even started. Five will get you ten that this "we don't want to hear it" mentality had something to do with that. It's just not good training if you actually have to deal with people.
 
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And probably 99% of those little shits really don't know anything about this judge. There's likely a couple of ring leaders who riled them up by using words like "fascist" and "far-right." In fact, it may very well be this dean of DEI who instigated the whole protest to begin with.

Ignorant little toadies.


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The place in America with the least freedom of speech is the universities. The indoctrination of the young begins in elementary school and by the time the students got to college they are immersed in the work culture of a deep "progressive democratic party agenda." To reverse the left's culture must be addressed beginning at the elementary school level. DeSantis is a good start to pursue that process. If you are asked to donate to a school you attended begin by asking about their right of freedom of speech.


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Stanford is one the most expensive nursery schools in the nation. Bunch of fuckin' spoiled children. Stanford as a whole has gone woke years ago, on par with their rivals U.C. Berkeley.



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This is yet another in a long train of examples of...

HOW DARE YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT OPINON!!!

If you don't conform to our beliefs we will SHOUT AT YOU!!! Throw things at you! Belittle you! Freedom of speech for us but not for you!!!!


An entire generation of people with thinking so screwed up it defies definition is about to move into the world and start making decisions.




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The next generation is being conditioned to support that the constitution is an outdated document. A step closer to the idiocracy.




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The students should be expelled and the dean fired.

Agree with the last bit.

RE: expel. If Stanford is like many campuses, you don't need a student ID to attend talks, and if so, some of the troublemakers may just be ordinary riff-raff rather than student riff-raff. So I'd modify that to identify the scum, expel the student riff-raffs and file a complaint against the rest for tresspass.
 
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Stanford is one the most expensive nursery schools in the nation. Bunch of fuckin' spoiled children. Stanford as a whole has gone woke years ago, on par with their rivals U.C. Berkeley.


I have a very ominous feeling around them. They are connected into all kinds of leading technology in most major areas. It feels like an arm of the DNC. Stinks of fascism.


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They should be banned from being admitted to the bar for bad character
 
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