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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Some people just love a good conspiracy theory and won't let it go. Nice to have a little credible evidence to back things up but that never stopped them before.
Hopefully there will be a clear-cut cause and a transparent autopsy process.

Yes, I hope they do an autopsy an it reveals a clear-cut cause.

Family history (his father died at 69 of a massive heart attack) and a long flight back from Ukraine (blood clot/DVT risk) likely equal Graham having a stroke/heart attack. I don’t think it was a “hit” or a “message” but was simply an older man who passed away suddenly, but because of who this particular man is, it is a newsworthy event.

For what it’s worth. I haven’t seen other reports that the FBI is on the case.

“The Federal Bureau of Investigation has stepped in to 'assist' local authorities in the wake of Lindsey Graham's unexpected death, adding to mounting skepticism surrounding the US Senator's sudden passing at 71.  …”

https://mol.im/a/15971771

Yes, after his recent trip, it's very suspicious.

"There are no coincidences."

Oh, of course there are; every minute of every day, but this does seem to be a bit too coincidental. Consider Russian assassination methods.

He was 71...not a spring chicken. His father died of an MI at 69. People his age die every day. Nothing to see here, but I suppose I can't blame the FBI nowadays for wanting to make sure the crazy muslims didn't kill him.

He was swamp critter. Just like 90+% of them. Been in there way too long. I am not glad by any means when almost anyone passe's. But as far as a government (you pick the adjective). Him being out the pix will serve the American public in a positive way imho.

Bush reacts to Graham’s death: Understood U.S. involvement abroad as way to ‘resist tyranny’

https://justthenews.com/govern..._campaign=newsletter

"Laura and I were saddened to wake up to the shocking news of Senator Lindsey Graham's death. He was a knowledgeable Senator who understood how the world works and how important America's international engagement is to resist tyranny,"

He earned my respect sticking up for Brett Kavanaugh and calling out the Left for their dirty tactics during his confirmation hearings.

I cannot recall anything he did that was damaging to this country.

As far as his "politics". Well, he was varsity.

One of Graham's finest moments.

https://x.com/ThomasMHern/stat...test-moment-n4954938

Read on X that preliminary examination shows an aortic dissection related to coronary artery disease. No tox results back yet

This is the search answer for what got him for people like me with limited medical knowledge.
He had an aortic dissection. This describes the difference between that and a "widow maker".
Both are sudden death most would call a heart attack.

"Although they are separate conditions, an aortic dissection can cause a heart attack or mimic its symptoms. If the tear in the aorta extends backward and blocks the openings of the coronary arteries, it can prevent blood from reaching the heart muscle. Additionally, arteriosclerotic disease (hardening/narrowing of the arteries) is a known risk factor that can weaken the walls of the aorta and contribute to both conditions."

from the Mayo Clinic.

I'm indifferent to Graham's passing... he was a lion during SCOTUS hearings, however he was supportive of NSA surveillance to which I viewed as a slippery slope and on international issues he liked to drop all manor of sound-bites. Some friends who are in special operations gave an POV that I value, when Graham & McCain would travel in/out of Iraq, Afghanistan & later Ukraine they would be assigned as security to Congressional delegations. They would big-time their way through, making big proclamations to foreign forces/political leaders, making sure media was around at the right time and basically presented himself as some odd character. Between his passing and possibly McConnel's demise, perhaps this is the turning of the page the GOP needs.

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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Both are sudden death most would call a heart attack.

Both can cause sudden death, yes, but it would be incorrect to call them both a “heart attack”. Sure, if you see someone clutching their chest in pain, then collapses and dies, a suspected heart attack would be first on anyone’s mind. But you wouldn’t know what caused that heart attack.

Heart attack (myocardial infarction, MI, in medical terminology) = Heart muscles die due to lack of blood flow that’s caused by something blocking the coronaries, one of them being the left main coronary (LCA), another the left anterior descending artery (LAD), both often referred to as the “widowmaker” for obvious reason.

That “something” could be a clot, a coronary spasm, an actual coronary dissection, or a “backward” aortic dissection (AD) causing the blockage of opening of the coronaries as mentioned by The Mayo Clinic.

So, you see, while the AD could have caused the heart attack, it’s not a heart attack itself and shouldn’t be called such.

All that discussed, we still don’t have a complete post-mortem picture of Graham. What’s the immediate cause of death? Proximate cause of death? All we have so far is, he had an aortic dissection.

RIP Senator Graham.

Original press "diagnosis" was "cardiac arrest" I believe. We all die of "cardiac arrest" eventually - your heart stops and you die. The proximal causes are myriad - disease, trauma, congenital defects. In this case it appears to have been an aortic dissection, Stanford Type A (ascending aorta) or B (descending aorta) unspecified. The first symptom of a Type A dissection is often death, with a mortality rate of about 50% with rapid emergency medical treatment within 48 hours. If you are on the table in front of a cardiothoracic surgeon with your chest open when it happens, you have a fighting chance. For almost half the patients with an ascending aortic dissection death is virtually instant - actually several minutes as the brain is deprived of oxygen and the heart stops, but immediate unconsciousness from which they never waken. A Type B (descending) dissection has much better survival odds, but both very much depend on where the tear is located and how large, and how rapidly medical intervention occurs. It's very likely that Senator Graham never knew what happened, walking and talking and then lights out.

Oh no. Now we'll never get to the bottom of "this"

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We all die of "cardiac arrest" eventually - your heart stops and you die.

Rule 1; "All bleeding stops."

“President Donald Trump wants late Senator Lindsey Graham's sister to fill the vacant seat left behind after the South Carolina lawmaker's sudden death. …”

https://mol.im/a/15974089

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
“President Donald Trump wants late Senator Lindsey Graham's sister to fill the vacant seat left behind after the South Carolina lawmaker's sudden death. …”

https://mol.im/a/15974089

The Governor has said that he prefers to nominate a person that could fill the seat but wasn't running in the November election...

Not sure that's a good choice because you could get someone that you really don't know how they will perform especially with all the issues in the narrow margin in the Senate...

Guess he doesn't want to be an influence peddler?

Update: Looks like Grahams sister will be the interim appointee.

https://x.com/FaulknerFocus/st.../2076698958420734018

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Originally posted by Georgeair:

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We all die of "cardiac arrest" eventually - your heart stops and you die.

Rule 1; "All bleeding stops."

One of the first four things a surgery resident learns in the OR:

1. Bleeding always stops
2. Oxygen is good, germs is bad
3. If you can see through it, you can cut it
4. Always fall backwards