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The guy behind the guy
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So the domain I want is being held hostage by a cybersquatter. They are saying $240k!!!!! the url is my last name in signature with .com. (don't want to type it here and they use the "traffic" to raise it even more or give them hope of a big payday.

There is no way I'm paying that much. $10k to $20k is well above market I'm told, but I would be willing to do it just to be done with it.

Perhaps this should be in the What's Your Deal? section, but I guess I'm both venting and looking for any signs of hope or tips on how to deal with a cyber squatter. I've already engaged a lawyer for this it's a massive pita. There are laws, but I'm told it's basically a waste of time.
 
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I have heard of this but I didn't know they had a name for it.

I swear I learn something new everyday coming to this site. It makes me regret all the money I contributed to Ohio State for me larnin.
 
Posts: 1836 | Location: In NC trying to get back to VA | Registered: March 03, 2015Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'd suggest making an offer somewhere below, perhaps half of what you are willing to pay. With the advent of additional TLD's over the "traditional" .com, .org, .net, .etc most domain name speculators are not nearly as tight-fisted as they have been in the past.

Don't worry about seeming "cheap" with a low-ball offer. After all, they are not worried about seeming greedy. The name isn't likely to be generating any revenue for them, so they have an incentive to let it go at any price.

WRT to going to the court for assistance, you pretty much have to be able to prove you have a registered trademark, and be using it in regular business activities to have a prayer of prevailing.
 
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This late in the .com TLD domain name game I guarantee you that if a domain squatter wasn't sitting on it, somebody else would already have it.

Several years ago I was doing something at one of the domain name registrars, I don't recall what, and a page I was on displayed "Did you know your first-initial-last-name.com is available?" Why, no, I did not know that. I quickly snatched it up.

There are very, very few common .com domain names that aren't either in-use or in the possession of squatters.



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ESD, do you own the trademark?
 
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About 15 years ago, I was looking for a domain for a side project I was doing.
A 6 character domain that was a pretty good variant of what I was looking for had expired and was available. I grabbed it and a few months later some company called me to see if I’d sell it.
A bit of back and forth and we came to terms at about $8500 or so.

The funds offset a bathroom remodel I was doing and everyone was happy.




 
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Ironically, esdunbar.com is available.
 
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Ironically, esdunbar.com is available.



Well it was. I'll take $240K for it! Wink


I've been pretty lucky over time. One of my relatives had a large business and used my last name.com. When they sold they let it expire and I simply snagged it up.

Most of my other domains were available, as were some that were similar to what other companies in my area owned, so I got those as well. I'm not exactly squatting, as all of them are forwarded to the site I use.


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Posts: 15722 | Location: St. Charles, MO, USA | Registered: September 22, 2003Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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My last name .com is owned by a large multinational electronic switch manufacturer. I wonder how much they would want for the domain?
 
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I staked my claim 21 years ago. The yearly registration fees keep going up. Not a huge deal, but further proof you never own anything in this life.





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Originally posted by sigalert:

I staked my claim 21 years ago. The yearly registration fees keep going up. Not a huge deal, but further proof you never own anything in this life.
I have been using Google Domains for registration of my .com domain.

Twelve bucks for a single year and I think there's a discount for multi-year registration.



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Have you consider other urls other than .com?

They have different ones like .ICU or .ME or .WORK



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Posts: 19676 | Location: The Free State of Arizona - Ditat Deus | Registered: March 24, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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My suggestion would be to think of another URL that works for you. "Squatters" as you call them got their URL legally, they didn't just move into an empty house and start living there. If you don't want to pay them for it think of a different one. If you do want to pay for it get your checkbook out. Too bad, so sad, think of another URL, and be glad. Little saying we have for those who want a URL and can't get it.

At any rate, I hope you find one that works for you.
 
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On a related note, if you ever file for a trademark, be sure to buy the domain first if available. Squatters most get notified when your trademark application is approved because it was available before I filed and was bought by a squatter by the time I checked after getting my TM approved. Only $800 but I didn’t want it that badly.


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Oh stewardess,
I speak jive.
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Come on now, I know you're not new to the internet.

You're several years or more late to this game of expecting to find your last name available.

Did this only occur to you recently or something?
 
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Cyber speculaor might be a better name. They lay out the money to register the domain and it’s theirs. Just because other folks want it doesn’t mean they have some special right to something someone else paid money for.

A non-profit I was involved with some years ago got screwed when they decided to cheap out. A local person who had been using what would have been their <ideal_domain>.com agreed to let them have it. They could have paid to transfer it it them, but they chose to wait for it to expire then register it. Guess what, someone beat them to it and was happy to sell it to them at a high cost. At my suggestion, they registered their <ideal_domain>.org and drove on.
 
Posts: 6920 | Location: Lost, but making time. | Registered: February 23, 2011Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Here's how wikipedia defines cybersquatting:
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Cybersquatting (also known as domain squatting), according to the United States federal law known as the Anticybersquatting Consumer Protection Act, is registering, trafficking in, or using an Internet domain name with bad faith intent to profit from the goodwill of a trademark belonging to someone else. The cybersquatter then offers to sell the domain to the person or company who owns a trademark contained within the name at an inflated price.

The term is derived from "squatting", which is the act of occupying an abandoned or unoccupied space or building that the squatter does not own, rent, or otherwise have permission to use.


Speculating on generic URLs and trying to sell them for a profit is a totally different thing.
 
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