In a Thursday report, Michael Bloomberg-funded Everytown for Gun Safety took a victory lap over the fact that the Republicans control the House yet Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.) is not advancing national reciprocity.
National Reciprocity was introduced by Rep. Richard Hudson (R-NC) on January 3, 2017  and Gun Owners of America reported that it had 199 co-sponsors by June 21, 2017. Yet Second Amendment supporters have seen no action on the bill from Ryan or Congressional leadership.

So Everytown is claiming a win.

Politico reported, “Republicans in Washington keep promising rollbacks of gun control laws” but “so far haven’t taken action on any on it.”

There is no evidence that Everytown has anything to do with Ryan’s inaction, but the inaction lets Everytown gloat nonetheless.

Reps. Thomas Massie (R-KY), Mo Brooks (R-AL), and Barry Loudermilk (R-KY) emerged from the June 14 Alexandria attack with a sharp focus on concealed carry and the ability to have a gun on one’s person for self-defense regardless of the state (or district) through which one is traveling. Second Amendment supporters hope Massie, Brooks, and Loudermilk can motivate Ryan to act on behalf of gun owners at a time like this; a time when Republicans control the House and Senate, and have a president who has already made clear he supports national reciprocity for concealed carry.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...l-reciprocity-stall/

damn Ryan traitor to the cause and party

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
damn Ryan traitor to the cause and party

...and COUNTRY!!!!

Ryan:not worth a cup of warm spit

National reciprocity kind of worries me a little, don't get me wrong that it would be great to be able to carry in my neighbor state of NJ and not be an instant felon upon crossing a bridge in Philly but I have concerns that it would dumb down or change things like we enjoy in PA for carry.

Unlike many states where they have all these Mickey Mouse rules about not being able to carry in a restaurant that happens to serve alcohol and things like that, there are literally like 3 places we CANNOT carry and that's IT:

1. Military/Gov't installations
2. Courthouses
3. Schools

My worry that PA's carry laws would be watered down to match those of other states with more restrictive rules.

Am I off base here worrying about this?

I suspect the Republicans will push through gun rights bills as well as the Democrats pushed through gun control bills.
Each panders, just enough, to their constituents to get support but nothing more.
A big event is about all that moves them either way.

I had high hopes for Ryan, but I am really getting to the "fuck that guy" point.

Has he voiced something that explains why he's not aggressively driving this through?

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I had high hopes for Ryan, but I am really getting to the "fuck that guy" point.

Same here.

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Originally posted by arfmel:
Ryan:not worth a cup of warm spit

not worth a cup of cold piss

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Originally posted by konata88:
Has he voiced something that explains why he's not aggressively driving this through?

Maybe he has some of the same reservations that many of us have in including the Feds in the business of Concealed Carry Permits.

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Originally posted by PASig:
National reciprocity kind of worries me a little, don't get me wrong that it would be great to be able to carry in my neighbor state of NJ and not be an instant felon upon crossing a bridge in Philly but I have concerns that it would dumb down or change things like we enjoy in PA for carry.

Unlike many states where they have all these Mickey Mouse rules about not being able to carry in a restaurant that happens to serve alcohol and things like that, there are literally like 3 places we CANNOT carry and that's IT:

1. Military/Gov't installations
2. Courthouses
3. Schools

My worry that PA's carry laws would be watered down to match those of other states with more restrictive rules.

Am I off base here worrying about this?

I don't think you are off base at all.
I think the concept is great too but I worry about the Feds making the rules for CC and then regulating the heck out of it when the next anti-gun government comes into office.

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Originally posted by PASig:
National reciprocity kind of worries me a little, don't get me wrong that it would be great to be able to carry in my neighbor state of NJ and not be an instant felon upon crossing a bridge in Philly but I have concerns that it would dumb down or change things like we enjoy in PA for carry.

Unlike many states where they have all these Mickey Mouse rules about not being able to carry in a restaurant that happens to serve alcohol and things like that, there are literally like 3 places we CANNOT carry and that's IT:

1. Military/Gov't installations
2. Courthouses
3. Schools

My worry that PA's carry laws would be watered down to match those of other states with more restrictive rules.

Am I off base here worrying about this?

that's my concern too, and I work in NJ haha.

There shouldn't be any laws period. Carry anything, anytime, anywhere.

Government getting involved in any law that constrains what the people can use to protect against governmental tyranny is a direct conflict of interest.

At a minimum, the people should be able to do whatever a SS agent, FBI, LEO, Military can do.

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Originally posted by PASig:
My worry that PA's carry laws would be watered down to match those of other states with more restrictive rules.

Am I off base here worrying about this?

Are your motor vehicle laws more watered down and restrictive?

Shouldn't be any different.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Are your motor vehicle laws more watered down and restrictive?

Shouldn't be any different.

Cars are not guns, politicians and people think about them differently since they have different uses...

What gave you reason for high hopes for his intentions? Never saw much in his pedigree to feel optimistic. He just wasn't John Boehner

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I had high hopes for Ryan, but I am really getting to the "fuck that guy" point.

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Originally posted by konata88:
There shouldn't be any laws period. Carry anything, anytime, anywhere.

Government getting involved in any law that constrains what the people can use to protect against governmental tyranny is a direct conflict of interest.

At a minimum, the people should be able to do whatever a SS agent, FBI, LEO, Military can do.

Unfortunately, that's not the current reality. And it's a bit of a fantasy to think it'll ever be like that.

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Unfortunately, that's not the current reality. And it's a bit of a fantasy to think it'll ever be like that.

Don't disagree. But then, sometimes ambitious goals help us to achieve acceptable realities.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Are your motor vehicle laws more watered down and restrictive?

Shouldn't be any different.

Actually, I think they might be. Aren't there threats of withholding federal highway funds if states don't comply with certain aspects of regulations like DUI laws? I'm pretty sure the 55mph speed limit was forced on all states with funding threats.