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It doesn't seem legal to: At best, this is a douchey business practice and even if it's legal this is a slippery slope for the economy:
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The new headline a year from now will read : GM dealer stunned at lack of customers, even with a full inventory. | |||
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Quite the contrast (obviously) to 2003 when I toured the Arlington,Tx GM plant. They were producing around 1000 SUVs (Tahoes,Suburbans, Yukon, Escalades) a day. 5 1/2 days a week. | |||
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It's not Amazon, pay for it then get it. When I finish signing the paperwork I had better be looking over the hood a few minutes later. My response to that dealership would not have been printable or shown on video without clicking the I am 18 button. | |||
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Total dick move. My dad worked for GM for 48 yrs and ordered many new GM vehicles. He would have told that dealer to shove it up his ass. I have personally never ordered a new vehicle so I don’t know the protocol but I know he never signed anything until he got to look it over, nor would I. I have no problem with a reasonable refundable deposit. I hope that dealer goes belly up | |||
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Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
This is more than a dick move. This also sounds like bank fraud-if the guy is agreeing to sign falsified documents that show he actually took delivery in order for the bank to release the funds. A dealership that states they are doing this to keep the lights on sounds especially risky to this car (non)owner. Individuals at dealerships have done plenty of things that aren't legal, and until someone starts a legal process against them, it may appear as business as usual and OK. It isn't. I wouldn't take legal advice from a GM of a car dealer. This purchaser should have contacted his lawyer first and maybe the FBI as this sounds like bank fraud. If it's a widespread practice by GM or other dealers, they may be especially interested. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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No, not like Bill Clinton |
A dick move There is definitely something missing from that story, a few things probably I have a lot of the folks wanting to pay before it's even built, I ask them to be patient and I will let them know when it's close in transit | |||
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Guys are doing the Gunbroker thing with semi's around here. Order and take possession of a rig and immediately sell it as used for nearly double. The shops used truck lot can hold about 150 rigs and used to be always full. It's been empty for months. Now it's used for the Service dept to store rigs waiting on parts and it's full, with the service lot 4 and 5 deep at times. | |||
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I’d be willing to bet the dealer is not happy with the negotiated price and knows it can sell for thousands more if the original buyer doesn’t deal. I’d bet they would lose if challenged on the contractual legalities of the extortion they are perpetuating. A real scumbag thing to do and terrible optics for GM. I’ve grown to expect nothing less from the US auto industry. One of my cars recently spent 2 months in the shop waiting on a new computer from Germany. My service rep told me at the time, that they only had 4 new cars on the lot. They normally kept between 75-100 new and about the same in certified and used cars. The biggest challenge they were having was repeat buyers coming in off leases. They were turning them away by the dozens because they weren’t sure they could meet demand even by offering sweet extension deals on current leases. _________________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last” - Winston Churchil | |||
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He needs to send this info to GM. | |||
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I'm sure Dana Nessel will be all over it like she is on Michigan's gas price "gougers" Harshest Dream, Reality | |||
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Although I don't agree with the concept, I don't think that this is as unheard of as some may think, and it isn't necessarily illegal either. I have purchased (in full), titled, and insured vehicles prior to taking physical possession. Generally used and from out of state. Disclaimer: Even though I don't believe it is good practice, or ethical, I do not hate car dealers or salesmen (or women). I have never been screwed by a car dealer, nor dumped by a dealership owner's daughter. | |||
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His diet consists of black coffee, and sarcasm. |
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Thank you Very little |
There are laws in every state regarding the sale of a vehicle, not sure they are breaking any law by demanding payment in full prior to delivery, maybe breaking with custom and historical process, but, question is it illegal. In this market you want it, you pay to play for specific models, Tahoe being one, and there are few options to go elsewhere, unscrupulous, a bit pushy, out of line, and clearly out of the norm, Dealers are feeling some squeeze trying to make ends meet, right now the majority of sales at dealerships are orders for future delivery, not getting paid for the vehicle for 90 days kills cash flow during the transition from the old process of closing on the day the customer takes delivery since there is little to sell for day to day delivery. They should have made it a condition of sale, you order, X$ down, full payment due once Vin is assigned, if they signed an agreement, the terms bind, Dealer may full be within its legal rights... Now as far as optics, different story... | |||
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Surprised dealerships have not started on-line auctions yet. | |||
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I have no issues paying ahead of time if the vehicle physically exists. I would expect a dealer or private party to have payment before letting a vehicle leave their control. In this case, just because there is a VIN does not mean there is a vehicle. Vehicles are assigned a VIN during early production. You can have a VIN but no vehicle for months. I think the dealer is trying to get the buyer to back out of the deal so they can sell at a higher price. | |||
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I'd get my $500 back, out of his ass. Then I'd go buy a Ford. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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Has nothing to do with the make it has to do with the independently owned dealership. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
And thus go back to the end of the waiting list, and have to wait many more months for your Ford to arrive. It's not a GM vs. Ford thing. It's an "asshole dealership" thing. | |||
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A Grateful American |
Lemme guess "Cheaper Than Dirt GMC"? "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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