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Hit the button Max |
People forget that they are employees. The NFL ,like other sports leagues, is a business. The players act like they are running the show. Fire them all. Every last one. End the season now. I'm sure somewhere in their contract is a clause that they have violated. Us it to end their employment. “Sometimes paranoia's just having all the facts.” - William S. Burroughs | |||
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What Lastmanstanding said.. "All great things are simple, and many can be expressed in single words: freedom, justice, honor, duty, mercy, hope." --Sir Winston Churchill "The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose." --James Earl Jones | |||
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I have to believe the vast majority of paying sports fans are patriotic Americans. That said, you should not piss off your fan base - they will abandon you. Football players are entertainer, no more. They make no contribution to society other than entertainment. Bottom line, not needed for a trying else. I now refuse to watch the game, period. I vote with my dollars. No quarter .308/.223 | |||
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... anything else... Damn spell-check No quarter .308/.223 | |||
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Political Cynic |
Godell wants respect... for what? respect is earned and not given...so whats he done to earn it? hey Godell - stuff it [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
Yes, I would - I don't care what or who you are.
Any display against my flag, my country, my president will be met with equal abandonment of the NFL and its sponsors - with input sent to those sponsors.
Who the fuck cares what this GDC has to say, like he is some impartial free speech advocate from that shithole university.
Your players actions started this, you are allowing it to continue, those actions are an extreme level of disrespect shown to all patriotic Americans who love their country and what it stands for in the world.
Don't do it on the field, people are paying to see a "game" played, you are being paid to play that game. You want to wade into political issues go do it on your time.
I do and so does my money - tread carefully - you may need anatifa and blm types to fill the stadiums and buy your sponsors products.
And they will continue to decline. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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| Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle  |
I have felt almost liberated in my self imposed boycot of football. Instead of NFL, I will enjoy doing things around my house, specfically working in my basement to build my shop. So I will not be watching today. Seeing that MLB players are doing it now, right as we go into October, that has me upset. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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It's spreading to baseball... First pro baseball player kneels during anthem Oakland Athletics catcher Bruce Maxwell became the first Major League Baseball player to kneel during the national anthem. After Donald Trump called NFL players who kneel during the anthem "Sons of bitches," this was inevitable. The reaction to Trump's call to fire or suspend NFL players who kneel from players and league officials was to be expected - harsh criticism that Trump was trying to prevent their right of free expression and that his call for owners to deal with kneeling players was racist. It's clear now that the battle lines have been drawn for all pro sports. Expect more baseball players to follow Maxwell's example today. Washington Times: Maxwell dropped to a knee just outside Oakland’s dugout on Saturday before a game against the Texas Rangers, adopting a protest started by former San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick in response to police treatment of blacks. Maxwell’s teammates stood in a line next to him. Teammate Mark Canha, who is white, put his right hand on one of Maxwell’s shoulders. The Athletics released a statement on Twitter shortly after the anthem, saying they “respect and support all of our players’ constitutional rights and freedom of expression” and “pride ourselves on being inclusive.” Major League Baseball also issued a statement, saying it has “a longstanding tradition of honoring our nation prior to the start of our games” but that “we also respect that each of our players is an individual with his own background, perspectives and opinions.” Maxwell’s protest comes after President Donald Trump denounced protests by NFL players and rescinded a White House invitation for NBA champion Stephen Curry in a two-day rant that targeted top professional athletes. “That’s a total disrespect of everything that we stand for,” Trump said of kneeling through the anthem. He added, “Wouldn’t you love to see one of these NFL owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, you’d say, ‘Get that son of a bitch off the field right now. Out! He’s fired.” What was Maxwell's reasoning for taking a knee? “This now has gone from just a BlackLives Matter topic to just complete inequality of any man or woman that wants to stand for Their rights!” Maxwell wrote. Maxwell was born in Wiesbaden, Germany, while his father was stationed there in the Army. He later moved to Alabama, where he attended high school and college. Maxwell’s agent, Matt Sosnick, told The Associated Press that “the Maxwells’ love and appreciation for our country is indisputable.” “Bruce has made it clear that he is taking a stand about what he perceives as racial injustices in this country, and his personal disappointment with President Trump’s response to a number of professional athletes’ totally peaceful, non-violent protests. “Bruce has shared with both me and his teammates that his feelings have nothing to do with a lack of patriotism or a hatred of any man, but rather everything to do with equality for men, women and children regardless of race or religion.” Let us recall the original words of Colin Kaepernick after his initial protest against the anthem last year. "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder." Is this unbalanced, hysterically exaggerated rant the reason Maxwell took a knee? And if it isn't, why emulate it? Why not come up with another way to protest what Trump said rather than associate his protest with these false and malignant words? Black people are not "oppressed" in America. That is a loaded word not connected to reality. In fact, it is an insult to truly oppressed people everywhere. If you claim to be "oppressed" in the US, you are praised and feted from one end of the country to another by left wing media and liberal groups. If you claim to be "oppressed" in North Korea, for instance, you are likely to be taken out immediately and shot. Or in Myanmar, if you are a Rohingya minority, if you claim to be "oppressed" you're mother and sisters are likely to be raped and you end up in prison. That's what true "oppression" is and anyone in the United States who claims the status of being "oppressed" is a gross exaggeration of reality and minimizes the suffering and courage of those who seek freedom from that oppression around the world. Kaepernick has received a lot of flak for his protest, but he has also been praised to the skies for his position by other players, team management, the league, and the sports media. In fact, those who might disagree with Kaepernick's protest, as well as similar demonstrations from others, are cowed into silence. Maxwell is kidding himself if he doesn't believe that kneeling for the national anthem is not disrespectful. His act means that we can expect all sports will see the anthem protest become a fact of life. It will continue until the league gives in and banishes the playing of the anthem altogether. http://www.americanthinker.com...s_during_anthem.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Isn't the NFL a tax exempt organization? If it still is there is an easy fix. Pull their tax exempt status and then they can do anything they want. Kneel, stand, scratch their ass, I don't care. But as long as you are tax exempt, politics should not be allowed into the mix. Same with churches. If so many people are on your side, then you should be able to stand on your own. Just my two cents worth. ETA: just found they gave it up in 2015. Shows you how important the NFL is to me. So now if they feel this blatant disrespect for our national anthem and great country will be good for their business model then so be it. But it damn sure won't sit well with most Americans and as for trying to get new fans, I doubt it very seriously. I for one have never had a need to or want to watch grown men getting paid rediculous sums of money to play a game. Competition is great, but compete to make a difference in the world. Paid sports just doesn't do it for me and never will. It's all about clean living. Just do the right thing, and karma will help with the rest. | |||
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Glorious SPAM! |
A friend of mine who is a HUGE football fan just told me he is giving up on it. Cancelling his Sunday Ticket. I was kind of shocked. It won't happen overnight but more and more people are disgusted with these antics. Eventually the NFL will feel the pinch. The owners keep Goodell around because he makes them money, but that will eventually end. And so will he. We need to start a petition to Trump. Have him bar the military from doing any pre game flag ceremonies or anything. As CNC he definitely could order that. | |||
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| I'll use the Red Key |
Don't be surprised when all these sports attendance drops assholes. MLB = Merica Leaves Baseball  Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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The entire Oakland Raiders offensive line plans to sit for the Anthem tonight when they play the Redskins. Fuck everyone of them. Show some respect. They have twitter, facebook, press conferences, and various other ways to protest their perceived racial BS. Let us enjoy a football game and the singing of the National Anthem without your temper tantrums. If there was really a culture of hate or cops were waking up trying to figure out how many blacks they could kill this shift, then I'd be 100% behind taking action against it. It's simply not the case. Show me the racism, I'll help you fight it. These people need to look in the mirror and figure out why more black people are in jail, or shot by cops. Not committing crimes and not attacking police officers is the fastest and best way to avoid getting shot or jailed. Ravens and Jags players kneel for Anthem, and stand for God save the Queen.   Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Liked this comment for NFL: No Fans Left Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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If the networks had a brain**, they would not show these loser asswipes sitting, kneeling, rubbing one out, or whatever in the hell they think they're doing to "prove a point". I don't even see a point to prove. Anyway.....the networks could save face by just showing the singer/performer(s) and the flag. Or just have The National Anthem performed before said asswipes come on the field...problem solved. Phukk all this other male bovine excrement. Jeeeezus..... Oh...and the NFL hasn't graced my television or household for probably 15+ years; maybe longer. I have no intent on watching narcissistic assholes stroke each other when they think they've made some great contribution to/in society by catching a ball. Same thing goes for the NBA, full of thugs and criminals, and I guess now it's evolving to MLB. ALL of which have not seen my TV in the same 15+years...screw 'em all. I don't know what I'll do if any phucktards in the NHL start doing this shit. [/rant] ** But we all know the networks are anti-Trump anyway, so whatever it takes to stir their pot. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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The networks pay yuuuuuge amounts to televise these events, funding a significant amount of those players salaries. Usually, controversy attracts eyeballs which is how sponsors measure the worth of their sponsorship dollar. When viewership declines, the sponsors will weigh in. When that doesn't work, they will go back to Queen for A Day, and westerns. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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to think that people will happily pay money to watch someone disrespect the anthem and the country is lunacy. people came to watch a game, not some political or social statement that at least half of them disagree with. keep your politics out of the work place fools. | |||
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God will always provide |
Hell, I've not watched professional football since the Jets beat the Colts in Superbowl 3 and I realized the fix was in. | |||
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Meh. Its a free country, he can do what he wants. However, Maxwell is a mediocre player and next spring will be back in the minors or be selling Toyotas in some second or third tier city anyway. “I used to be totally into Steve Vai and Joe Satriani and other shredders, and I tried to emulate what they did and really grow as a guitarist,” Mr. Hanneman said in “Louder Than Hell.” “Then I said, ‘I don’t think I’m that talented, but more important, I don’t care.’ ” | |||
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This Space for Rent |
^^^^^. MLB needs to nip this in the bud and suspend him for a game or 2. The commissioner needs to show a spine and it out of baseball We will never know world peace, until three people can simultaneously look each other straight in the eye Liberals are like pussycats and Twitter is Trump's laser pointer to keep them busy while he takes care of business - Rey HRH. | |||
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You sound like my father. As for me, I am finished. I had free tickets to next weeks game and just sent the text that I am no longer interested. Imagine that. A Ravens/Steelers game that I could give two shits about and have no interest in even watching. I never in a million years would have thought that would even be in the realm of possibility. But it is. I am done. | |||
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