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You don't have the problem with Pro versions.


I have W10 Pro it seems. Does this change whether I should upgrade or not? This is confusing for me....




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I made the switch last year. It runs better than Win 10 did.


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Originally posted by smschulz:
You don't have the problem with Pro versions.


I have W10 Pro it seems. Does this change whether I should upgrade or not?
This is confusing for me....


No not at all.
Pro Versions are easier to bypass any MS account issues.
Other benefits as well.
When you upgrade - MS will install whatever version you have.
It is all the same DL and will detect what version you have.
 
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I LOVE Win 11, especially when used with the Office 365 Suite.

It is fast, stable, useable, adaptable, and feature rich.

It doesn't choke on updates like earlier versions of windows did, it seems faster to me, it is intuitive to operate, and doesn't seem to have the disk space management, fragmentation, excess logging, problems that cluttered implementations of earlier versions of Windows.



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Thanks guys. For better or worse, I pulled the trigger. So far, no issues.




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Is w11 having issues with memory leakage?

With w10, after rebooting, my system would consume, say, 6-7GB. After using the system for a couple of weeks or so, at idle after closing all apps, system might show about 8-9GB used.

With w11, after several days, my usage is up at about 12GB. Is there a new feature that is using the memory? Or is w11 just leaking memory?




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Is w11 having issues with memory leakage?

With w10, after rebooting, my system would consume, say, 6-7GB. After using the system for a couple of weeks or so, at idle after closing all apps, system might show about 8-9GB used.

With w11, after several days, my usage is up at about 12GB. Is there a new feature that is using the memory? Or is w11 just leaking memory?


You have to look at the individual app to see what is consuming the memory.
But in general W11 is not a problem.
Could be anything, may not even be a problem, are you seeing any overt performance issues?
 
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It isn't a huge change. I went to 11 on my laptop as it was newish, and had plenty of capacity to run W11.




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You have to look at the individual app to see what is consuming the memory.
But in general W11 is not a problem.
Could be anything, may not even be a problem, are you seeing any overt performance issues?


This is a comparison of memory consumed after a reboot (no apps open) and after days of usage (but again, after closing all apps).

I'll try to get a snapshot from task manager of memory used for each task and do a compare / contrast (maybe for the largest memory users - like tasks that are consuming more than 25MB of memory).




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I recently upgraded my laptop to Win11. The only real big issue was being able to install without logging into a Microsoft account. I had to search for a workaround. That workaround included having to modify the install files using a tool called Rufus. The old trick of disconnecting the network cable at a certain spot in the install doesn't work anymore.


Here's a trick I learned early on in the Win11 install process to work around this requirement of a Microsoft account. Should still work - but use at your own risk.

During the setup process, when you reach the screen asking you to review the license agreement, disconnect your network cable. Then accept the terms.

You'll then be prompted to connect to a network. Instead, do the following:

*Press Shift+F10 - brings up a command prompt under windows\systemXX
*Type taskmgr
*Once that screen opens, select more details
*Scroll down until you find 'network connection flow'
*right click on that line and choose end task.

You should see the 'connect to a network' screen behind your active command prompt screen change, and once you close the task manager and command prompt windows, you'll be at the 'add local user' screen.

Plug the network cable back in.




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Originally posted by Skull Leader:
I recently upgraded my laptop to Win11. The only real big issue was being able to install without logging into a Microsoft account. I had to search for a workaround. That workaround included having to modify the install files using a tool called Rufus. The old trick of disconnecting the network cable at a certain spot in the install doesn't work anymore.


Here's a trick I learned early on in the Win11 install process to work around this requirement of a Microsoft account. Should still work - but use at your own risk.

During the setup process, when you reach the screen asking you to review the license agreement, disconnect your network cable. Then accept the terms.

You'll then be prompted to connect to a network. Instead, do the following:

*Press Shift+F10 - brings up a command prompt under windows\systemXX
*Type taskmgr
*Once that screen opens, select more details
*Scroll down until you find 'network connection flow'
*right click on that line and choose end task.

You should see the 'connect to a network' screen behind your active command prompt screen change, and once you close the task manager and command prompt windows, you'll be at the 'add local user' screen.

Plug the network cable back in.


I've used this trick on quite a few Win11 installs I've done. I think they patched this in later versions of 11 though. If this doesn't work for you and or the options for "I don't have Internet"/"Limited Experience" are greyed out. You can make this registry entry via CMD:

Shift + F10

C:\WINDOWS\system32\OOBE\BYPASSNRO
Enter
Restart

See steps 18 - 20 here:
https://pureinfotech.com/bypas...-install-windows-11/




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I use Windows 11 at home and at work and it does well with no issues. You should go with it.


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Zero issues with W-11 on a new Lenovo Thinkpad. My associate's brand new desktop custom build has had very bad luck. He thinks he narrowed it down to his motherboard. A frustrating experience for him. I don't know of anyone that has upgraded or installed it fresh other that my associate that has had any issues.
 
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Otherwise your are GTG to upgrade.
I just lots of problems trying to upgrade very old machines.
Anything less than Intel Gen 9 ( I don't support AMD so couldn't tell you about them) is a no-go for W11 for my advice, W10 > yes but W11 > no.
.


I have an I7 970 CPU @ 3.2GHz. Can it run Win11?

Thanks,
Ray



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Some things I like, some I don’t like.

I like the windows placement selection options. I hate that the latest release stopped allowing me to resize the taskbar.

Some things now require you to click through two menus to get what you need instead o being right on the first menu.

I use the search box more to find things.
 
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I recently switched over to Win11 mostly based on the appearance of this thread. I had put it off to avoid the initial bugs but it seems that they have been fixed. I did backup my photos, music, videos, and documents just in case. The installation itself went quite quickly and painlessly. It didn't lose anything or create any new issues. It took me a few days to get used to the icons being in the center as opposed to the left of the taskbar but I have adapted. I have found that Win11 boots faster and is generally faster overall than Win10 which is a pleasant surprise. I have been running it for about a week and a half with no issues whatsoever.

There are two things that I have benefitted from since making the switch.

First, just like another member here, I had recently upgraded my modem when Comcast/Xfinity said that my current modem was not allowing the speeds of our actual service plan. Our plan is for 800Mbps but the old modem was only rated for around 400Mbps. So I bought a new modem that goes up to over 1Gbps. Shortly after installing the new modem and having Comcast recognize it, I tried a speed test from my desktop which is hardwired into our network. I was still using Win10 and my download speed was around 570Mbps. Better than before but nowhere near what it was supposed to be. After installing Win11, it seemed that browsing the internet was suddenly faster. I ran a speed test and I am now a bit above the 800Mbps that our plan allows for. It has been in the 802-825 range. I'm not well-versed in computer operations and I have no idea why it would suddenly be faster but I'll take it. Maybe Win11 plays better with the devices? Other than the modem, there were no other hardware changes.

The other item was Zwift - the software for indoor bicycle training with a smart trainer. I had used this software for a few years with no issues. Then, in early February, Zwift sent out an update that screwed things up for many users, including me. They sent out a couple of updates over the next few days which fixed the main issues but something changed and I continued to have problems. I had issues with the game not giving me credit for all the miles I rode. It would sometimes record about 2 miles less. Then it was shortchanging me on my elevation (feet climbed during a ride). The biggest issue was that the game would not exit cleanly. It would hang during the process and I would have to use task manager to end it. I even did an uninstall/reinstall but it didn't help. Well, after installing Win11, the software now works the way it is supposed to. Again, I have no idea why but I'm happy.
 
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Otherwise your are GTG to upgrade.
I just lots of problems trying to upgrade very old machines.
Anything less than Intel Gen 9 ( I don't support AMD so couldn't tell you about them) is a no-go for W11 for my advice, W10 > yes but W11 > no.
.


I have an I7 970 CPU @ 3.2GHz. Can it run Win11?

Thanks,
Ray


Intel I7-970 is a gen 1 CPU (2010) > NO
Intel I7-9700 - gen 9 CPU (2018) > YES
 
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Originally posted by smschulz:


Otherwise your are GTG to upgrade.
I just lots of problems trying to upgrade very old machines.
Anything less than Intel Gen 9 ( I don't support AMD so couldn't tell you about them) is a no-go for W11 for my advice, W10 > yes but W11 > no.
.


I have an I7 970 CPU @ 3.2GHz. Can it run Win11?

Thanks,
Ray


No. That is a first generation, or very close to it i7 CPU. Produced around 2010.

Here is a list of compatible intel processors:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en...ted-intel-processors

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[/QUOTE]

I have an I7 970 CPU @ 3.2GHz. Can it run Win11?

Thanks,
Ray[/QUOTE]

Intel I7-970 is a gen 1 CPU (2010) > NO
Intel I7-9700 - gen 9 CPU (2018) > YES[/QUOTE]

Well I built it 2010 so I guess it's time to upgrade. Would a intel Core i9-10940X 3.3GHz processor be good?

Ray



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Would a intel Core i9-10940X 3.3GHz processor be good?


It would be great.
 
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