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Originally posted by 220-9er:
Today it's back to the 24 Hour Trump Doom and Gloom Network. No mention of their fake news guy getting caught.
That wascally wabbit just keeps beating them every single time they smell victory and they can't let him get away with it.

This douchebag was a journalist with the German magazine Der Spiegel. He is not affiliated with CNN.

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Wow. Der Speigel should publish that article to clear things up and show everyone what a douche that guy is.

Replying to the same post again to say huh, they now actually have a report up detailing the content of the medium.com article, to which they link.

http://www.spiegel.de/kultur/g...offen-a-1244806.html

I have zero sympathy for Der Spiegel, they're a leftist media organization that pushes an agenda while telling everyone they're a hard-hitting news source. While they'll prostrate themselves all over the front pages that they screwed-up, we're opening up the doors and dropping our pants to show our transparency, the reality is, they're leftists. They'll dig deep on the issue they're concerned with but, tar, paint and smear those issues they disagree with, namely security, property rights, firearms, defense, industry and anything else that is 'conservative'.

He's now free for CNN to hire him full time...wouldn't surprise me at all.

There is a slowly growing volume of coverage about the case on "Spiegel's" English web presence, including a video interview of the fellow reporter who uncovered Relotius (subtitles available) and now a translation of their report about the medium.com article on the Fergus Falls story. There is also an interview with the two folks who wrote the latter in the German section, which I guess will be translated eventually, too.

Damn, this guy made up A LOT of just pure bullshit!

Jayson Blair on steroids.

He can always work for the NY Times. They let some Black guy write totally fabricated stories for years as they tried to counsel him to write better. He even wrote a book about it. So, if they are comfortable suborning known fabrications and lies, this guy is a real fit for them

https://www.breitbart.com/euro...oney-syrian-orphans/

Former Der Spiegel star journalist Claas Relotius, who was exposed for inventing facts and interviews in his stories for years, has now been accused of embezzling money allegedly meant for Syrian orphans in Turkey.
Mr Relotius allegedly took donations from readers following the publication of his article “Königskinder,” which was published in July 2016, to a personal bank account. According to Turkish photographer Emin Özmen, much of the article contained fabrications and lies, Der Spiegel reports.

Özmen said that Relotius had written about a Syrian refugee boy in Turkey named Ahmed who had to bury his mother and had a sister who was forced into brutal work in a textile factory.

The problem with the story being that Ahmed’s mother is still very much alive and working in a furniture shop in Gaziantep, Turkey. The photographer said the boy did not have a sister at all, to his knowledge

Relotius mentioned the fundraiser in a recently released journalistic anthology claiming that he had managed to bring children from the area to Lower Saxony where they are now living with a family; but this too is believed to also be made up by the disgraced journalist who now faces possible investigation from the public prosecutor’s office.

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Originally posted by ChuckWall:
He can always work for the NY Times. They let some Black guy write totally fabricated stories for years as they tried to counsel him to write better. He even wrote a book about it. So, if they are comfortable suborning known fabrications and lies, this guy is a real fit for them

Don't forget they hired known bigot Sarah Jeong to it's editorial board, he should be a shoo-in with all the low-ethic individuals there.

BTW, "Spiegel" now has a corrective report about Fergus Falls up on their English site. Though judging from the headline, they may have gone a little overboard the other way this time out of their guilty conscience over the original hit piece.

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Originally posted by RAMIUS:

Wow. Der Speigel should publish that article to clear things up and show everyone what a douche that guy is.

Speigel Online:

http://www.spiegel.de/internat...andal-a-1244755.html

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Originally posted by blueye:
Just checked CNN (Communist News Network) no mention of this.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20...s-spiegel/index.html

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He also penned a feature for Swiss magazine Reportagen, for which he received two CNN Journalist Awards in 2014, including Journalist of the Year. The CNN Journalist Awards were for German-language journalism and decided by an independent jury. The last awards were given in 2015.
A spokesman for CNN said Thursday that the 2014 awards jury held a meeting after Der Spiegel went public with its investigation, and voted unanimously to strip Relotius of both awards.

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He also penned a feature for Swiss magazine Reportagen, for which he received two CNN Journalist Awards in 2014, including Journalist of the Year. The CNN Journalist Awards were for German-language journalism and decided by an independent jury. The last awards were given in 2015.
A spokesman for CNN said Thursday that the 2014 awards jury held a meeting after Der Spiegel went public with its investigation, and voted unanimously to strip Relotius of both awards.

He wasn't stripped of the awards for lying in a news story, he was stripped because he got caught lying in a news story.

Ah, CNN, who reported that President Trump had joined a line-up of presidents who had never visited with the troops at Christmas.

That's odd - I could have sworn I just saw him on BBC news visiting with the troops in Iraq...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46687909

About 30 years ago a neighbor of ours was big in Ham radio and Ham TV. A reporter from a local large newspaper done an interview piece on him and after reading it I went to his house to ask him about the story. He said the reporter told one thing right that he was into Ham radio big, but the rest was nonsense. So fake news is nothing new these days.

If I see a news article is from CBS,NBC, MSNBC,CNN,PBS,YAHOO,NY TIMES or GOOGLE I just assume it's CRAP.

Excellent take on the Der Spiegel reporter and his ilk:

"Whatever one wants to say for the old model of the journalism career, there was a winnowing process to filter out the extremely stupid and dishonest. The Der Spiegel scandal is mostly due to hiring a charismatic greenhorn into a prominent position, without having put him through an apprenticeship. Odds are, the people who hired him had never been local reporters or had to edit copy for a small publication. Like Claas Relotius, they popped out of good schools and the right families into elite media."

More about his ilk in :"Industrial Rumpswabbery" at the Zman here


BTW: Did my apprenticeship in the 80s- proofreading and copy editing at the old English language Shipping and Trade News Tokyo, Japan. My editor-an old and stridently anti-Soviet white Russian born in Manchukuo(there's a photo of him in an old 30s National Geographic wearing a Japanese Kenjutsu outfit)was hired in the early 50s when the paper was financed by the CIA-the paper's main purpose being to report[spy]on ships docking in Tokyo and Yokohama.

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Originally posted by blueye:
Just checked CNN (Communist News Network) no mention of this.

Really? Because they published a story about it on December 20th, and updated the story in the early morning hours of December 21st.

It's the first result in search for his name on CNN.com:
https://www.cnn.com/search/?q=Claas+Relotius

This is the story:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20...s-spiegel/index.html

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Originally posted by JD83:
Excellent take on the Der Spiegel reporter and his ilk:

"Whatever one wants to say for the old model of the journalism career, there was a winnowing process to filter out the extremely stupid and dishonest. The Der Spiegel scandal is mostly due to hiring a charismatic greenhorn into a prominent position, without having put him through an apprenticeship. Odds are, the people who hired him had never been local reporters or had to edit copy for a small publication. Like Claas Relotius, they popped out of good schools and the right families into elite media."

More about his ilk in :"Industrial Rumpswabbery" at the Zman here

I don't think family or school background played a role here. Relotius studied political and cultural sciences in Bremen and Valencia, interned for a month with the Berlin-based daily "tageszeitung" (politically affiliated with the Greens) in 2008, got an MA from the Hamburg Media School in 2011 and started writing as a freelancer for various German and Swiss print media across the political board. Nothing prior to him being hired by "Spiegel" in 2017 as a regular editor really says "elite", like if he had gone to the Henri Nannen School, also in Hamburg, which is run by two of Germany's top publishers and sponsored by the "Spiegel" itself, having produced many high-profile journalists and editors-in-chief.

I think there are two larger underlying problems shown by the case. One is editors believing in narratives conforming to their personal bias; which is true for any political camp, actually. The other being the trend towards "storytelling" in journalism. The latter is currently being discussed more than the former in German journalistic circles, including "Spiegel" itself (their initial report on the affair has been criticized as falling into the same trap, being a quasi-literary treatment more at the expense of the individual culprit than the magazine). This guy was heaped with praise (and prizes) for his eloquent style, which seems to have impressed people so much they didn't bother so much with the facts - of course also because those tended to satisfy their bias. But then it's easier to debate the former than the latter.

Of course now people show up who claim they always thought his stories were just too perfect, too smooth, too detailed. The only one who can command real credibility about this though is Juan Moreno, the colleague who exposed him. In his personal depiction, he said he once read a Relotius article years ago before either of them worked for "Spiegel", which portrayed the supposedly first professional tax consultant on Cuba; allegedly shoeshiners were lining up for advice from him. Per Moreno, he thought "so Cuban shoeshiners make enough money to have questions about their tax performance. Right." But of course he couldn't be sure that never happens either, so rather than accusing an acclaimed colleague on a shaky basis, he kept his mouth shut when they later worked for "Spiegel".

Moreno allows that he probably only kept his reserve because he never actually met Relotius, who was employed as a regular editor at the "Spiegel" headquarters in Hamburg while he was working as a stringer in Berlin; they talked once on the phone over a contribution by Moreno, and were in the same room at Christmas parties, but didn't get personally acquainted. By all accounts, like all the most successful imposters, Relotius seems to be a guy who is great at making any people he meets like him, even in the shark bassin that is top-level journalism. Colleagues subsequently told Moreno he was the only one they didn't begrudge his awards, that they'd rather believed their own mother was faking reports than him, that he was always the most critical about his own work, etc.

In the end, everybody likes to read a good story for the sake of itself; Relotius' portrayal of the US border vigilante group that Moreno got suspicious over included nice human touches like that one member had had his daughter hooked upon drugs by South American immigrants. With his imagination, attention to detail and writing skills, he would probably make a good and successful novelist - but entertainment should not be a journalist's job, and it is being pointed out now (again) that the lines have become dangerously blurred.

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Originally posted by blueye:
Just checked CNN (Communist News Network) no mention of this.

Really? Because they published a story about it on December 20th, and updated the story in the early morning hours of December 21st.

It's the first result in search for his name on CNN.com:
https://www.cnn.com/search/?q=Claas+Relotius

This is the story:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/20...s-spiegel/index.html

Yeah, well, the timestamps would seem to suggest that the story was published after blueye's post.

“The man who doesn’t read the newspapers is uninformed. The man who does read the newspapers is misinformed.”-Mark Twain